Simple and to the point.

Only thing needed is openers on the back burner.

We've all been there were we stall out for whatever reason.

Usually,the guy takes 2 options after stalling:

1)He ejects and leaves set:"Ok,have a good night Karen".

2)He asks some cheesy ass/interview-type question which enters rapport when the girl doesnt wan rapport yet:"So.....you have kids"?

My Simple solution to this sticking point(although I rarely ever stall out nowadays),is to use an opener again.A question opener preferably.

Example:

The chat's going pretty good,she's reciprocating but you're stalling...

"So Karen,2 things about you which make you a good girlfriend"?

"And dont say that you're caring & kind;that's too clic¨¦(lol)".

So openers dont have to be used solely at the opening.

I usually use like 2-3 openers in a particular sarge.

Be them canned or my own.

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I agree with you. You need 2-3 openers for any situation. I used to be like that but ive learned to just minimize the number of openers and do cold reads. I will ask a personal question, just so i can know if im with the right girl, but i will tie everything i say the think i learned from the question.

Example:

Me: WHAT DID YOU DO!!!??? That guy that just walked away was almost crying. (Opinion opener)
Her: Hahahahahahaha. He had a crush on me. He is actully a friends friend.
.......
.......
.......
Me: So, what do you do?
Her: Im a student!
Me: Studying?
Her: Physcology. (its always the same lol)
Me: *make a stuck-up flicking of the nose*
Her: HEY!
Me: *smile* Im playing, but i bet your going to do your PhD and .........

Just continue until you run out of things to say but 95% percent of the time, she has given me ~5 IOI's and doesnt want to conversation to end.

Have fun boys!

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I like your sequence.

One doesnt have to stack forth with openers as I was saying.

Cold reads when stalling out could work too.

Just anything that's not like a job interview.

Appreciate the input P.

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I've found that when a girl is halfway interested she'll also put in sOme input to keep things rolling. I've had several circumstances where things go stale immediately and I used to try and work it but it usually winds up going 'interview style' and her with the look of 'why the fuck are you talking to me?'


I've just eject if she isn't meeting halfway after the opener. Maybe I don't have the skill to salvage it but whatever I'd rather just move on.

Yo Blackrock,
I understand what you are saying.... I used to be like that also. I would just eject from a set because i was freaking out and i wasnt getting any IOI's. What i would suggest if your interaction turns into an interview, GO BIG OR GO HOME!!!

Definition
GO BIG OR GO HOME - Throw her a soft neg that will have her talking. I like "Listen, you are a very pretty girl. But if you look around, beauty is so common here. What makes you different from other girls." When you say this, be very sinciere (sorry about the spelling) and also smile at the end.

If she replys with reasons, you just got an IOI and alot of stuff to talk about. If she turns it around on you (wont lie, it has happened once) laugh it off and compliment her with "You know, your the first girl to ever turn it around on me! *smile* so your smart, what else....?" and if she just looks at you with disgust, i think its time to really eject lol


Hope that helps bro

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@BlackRock-True in deed bro'.

The target keeing the convo alive is a solid IOI.

Lol I had to laugh when you said the girl reacted negatively when you went "interview style".

@Pdawg-Good point bro',I've been there to where I'd bail if her initial response wasnt smiling.

Good advise for BlackRock.

I like the classic line by Mystery,"beauty is common".

It's a light neg when I think about it.

I had many girls fucc it up by turning the line on me.

I hate when that shit happens.

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I use this a lot after the opener

You know, I read online the other day, that people have besides their horoscope sign their animal sign. You ever heard of that?
No? It's like, we all have our animal side inside of us. But it's nowhere written, everybody just knows what it is. If you could be an animal, wich animal would you be?
Horse, Tiger, Cat, Bird..

You can than make fun of that and use that to move forward like: A horse? You know how to ride one? I mean the horse, don't get any ideas, perverd

Second:

Me: Let me see your hands. No, give me your left one.(ussually they will give you their right one, I don't know why. Plus, when you say give me your left one it establishes a little bit of leadership) You know, you can know a lot about a person from just looking at their hands. (looking her in the eyes) I can sense that you are very emotional (If a girl has very gentle skin on her hands than she's emotional, but most girls have it and most girls are emotional) but you're trying to hide it, because you're very volnurable underneath. Look her in the eyes.

And I can sense you are very flexible (if her fingers are rigid, than she's not flexible and vice versa). You must be the follower in the group, you follow others wherever they go. You're like a sheep, that's cute, I like that

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Great routine Black Phantom;exactly what I was getting at.

I can see me using that horoscope routine in field even when Im not stalling.

I like the way you ask for their left hand;seems to have some subliminal-leadership stuff in there a you stated.

Good for getting KINO started also.

Nice routine Black Phantom.

Out of curiosity,is that ESP/horoscope routine yours or some guru's?

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Hey, the routine is my own. I came up to it when thinking one time about the similarities we have with animals, and came on an idea that maybe we really have our animal inside of us. True or not, I think it's interesting, and women love it. I use it all the time.

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Great BF. Will try this.

Thanks !

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@Black Fantom-Ok cool,I like the concept.

Women would definitely find it intriguing.

I plan on using it tonight,eventhough I already use similar routines.

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Just found this, hope it helps! nice routine by the way!

forgot the link sorry: the-animal-routine-vt776.html

I agree completely. Openers are great at any point in the pick-up process.