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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:24 pm 
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Straight to the point.

Approached an HB10 standing on a corner diddling with her phone.

Not much anxiety coming from me.

I opened with an opener made up on the spot as I seen her:

Me:"Hey,you're that rude girl who passed me 5 minutes ago without saying good night.Bad manners".

HB10:[Gave me a semi-WTF stare but I remained dominant]"Could'nt have been me;I've been standing here for about 20 min.talkng to someone".

Then she goes bacc to diddling with her cell phone as if to say,"get the hell out of here".

Me:"Wow,20 minutes,that's pretty long to be waiting on some guy".

HB:"Yea Im about to leave now,too much mosquitos biting me since I forgot to put on the insect repelent".

As she said that,she starts to body rock out or away as if to leave.

Me:"Hey,it's too early to go;plus Im talking,it's kinda rude to just walk off".

HB:"I know but I've been complaining about these mosquitos all evening;I just want them to stop biting."

As she's saying this,she's slightly/slowly walking away.

She did it in a semi flirty mannerism as to bait me to follow her.

Me:"You are totally exaggering".

At this point,I felt like grabbing her hand and gently pull her bacc.

Dammit!!!!!!!

I felt it,but I could'nt pull the trigger and grab her hand(which is 1 of my signature moves in set).

I read her body language that she wanted me to be dominant and pull her back physically.

Missed opportunity there.

But I slowly followed her as she walked off.

I didnt do it in a creepy/stalker way;we were still chatting as we walked off.

I think I also dropped the ball by letting her out walk me.

She was about 8 yards infront of me walking sideways kind of.

She was definitely not trying to flee out of fear.

It was more of baiting me to chase her physically and be dominant and demand her to stop and chat.

But I was too pussy to be that assertive & alpha.Plus I was too far from her to physically stop her by holding her hand.

And she wasnt speeding neither,she walked away gracefully while chatting with me sideways looking backwards;even standing there for a mili-second.

But,I miss calibrated and stopped also,rather than going to her when she'd stopped.Instead,she paused,and I paused about 8 yards behind her at the side.

This HB10 was all gamed,yet she just gaved me the standard-token resistance and I interpreted them as IOD and rejection.

So in fact,when I think about that last night,she did not reject me verbally nor physically.

I blew the game my damn self.

This girl wanted to be seduced but I wasnt physical enough nor confident enough nor persistent enough.

I knew what I had to do;pace her,catch up to her,stop her,hold her(hand),etc.

But I just didnt pull the trigger.

I guess after all,I did have anxiety.

My opener was'nt stellar neither but doable.

I wish I could do last night all over again for a same-night lay(lol)!

Anyway,like a stroke of luck,her fuccing mobile rang right after,so I got phased out by her exaggerated- lively phone convo'.

I just let her walk at that point an abandonned the sarge mission.

Maybe I could've stayed or continued following her as she chatted on her phone.

Sounds AFC'ish & needy,but as Tyler Durden wrote,"Persistent is key".

Some times,you have to toe the line of needy & persistent to get the girl.

Maybe I could've gotten her to stop,she chats on mobile for a bit,hangs up,then game on.

But I blew it again.

Feedback appreciated guys.

How would yall have handled this?

Was my problem not having a better opener to attract her[eventhough it doesnt matter the opener]?

Was I too passive and not firm enough in getting her to stay and chat?

Should I have went AFC and followed her anyway while she chatted on her phone?

What would yall have done to salvage this?

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Finally;my insight on rejection.

This is a new insight which came to me this morning as I pondered last night's sarge.

Girls never (really)reject guys.

They only give us token resistance,hoping we'd be savvy enough to distinguish it from actual rejection.

So in essence,the guy rejects himself by giving up on the sarge.

This girl did not reject me despite she walking away(lol)!

That was not rejection!!!!!

Was token resistance!!!

She didnt have an annoyed face when she walked away.

She wasnt smiling and giggly neither.

But as a seasoned guy in social dynamics,I was able to sense that she was saying inside:"be more persistent!Come take me!You can do ti man!It's only token resistance"!

I could've sensed she was saying that to herself.

Maybe a newbie could'nt sense this;I guess it's a 6th sense you develope a you get advanced in pick-up.

But this girl did not reject me as I initially thought.

I walked away smiling,not dejected,knowing that I had this handed to me on a fucking platter but didnt take it.

So I wanna believe that 85% of what guys assume is rejection is actually NOT rejection.

It's a comb of flirting,girl wanting to be chased and woed,and girls wanting a challenge.

Hey Mods,sorry if I'd posted this in the wrong section.

I believe it's the right section though.

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Dude, respect!

You approached a HB10 and you were gaming her :)

HB10 are tough, so no blame on you!


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Straight up. It seems like you have your game on lock.

Much respect.

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@TheeMikeyK & Anthonypham-Thanks for the props guys.

But not to be down on myself;I didnt friggin' pull the trigger like an alpha.

It's like an over-the hill boxer:he knows what he must do to win.He sees the openings in the opponent's game,yet he's just too old to physically pull the trigger.

Now,Im not too old to pull the proverbial trigger;Im 29.

But I allowed anxiety & rust to deter me from laying this girl.

Anywho,thanks for the props guys.

I usually dont game HB10's but I went for it that time.

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Props for approaching. I'd have ejected after the opener where she went back to her cell phone. When I started id keep pushing but I've never had much luck after a cold response initially. I never really go with shit tests, maybe I just bail too early but to each his own. I get a lot where I connect immediately so I just spend more time with those vs the back and forth.


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Top marks for holding in there after the first token resistance.
Maybe a FTC followed by a gambit would have helped.

The only other thing I can think of is that, don't chase.
I don't think a girl needs to be physically stopped from walking away.

I have no idea what would be clever enough to say to take her mind off of the mosquitos, but adam lyons has a great piece on "Negative Attraction" which if you google can help getting the girls that "want to be miserable".
Those sorts of girls sometimes are having such a bad time that they actually want someone else to compete with about how bad things are.

ie: "I have been eating bananas. I've been eaten alive all night. I know exactly how you feel."

Maybe a routine about how people who eat bananas attract more mosquitos... there's a fact in there I think. Don't know how many times you'd get to use it though.


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Much respect for your constructive analysis and reflection on what happened... it's helpful for a lot of us out here.


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@BlackRock-I kinda had a reverse effect to your situation.

I keep plowing after shit test and initial-cold responses;despite not getting far most times.

But I can see where any guy would be deterred from a cold response like the girl going back to fiddle with her phone.

But an initial good response from the girl always seems to make the pick-up much smoother I guess.

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@SV1-No doubt.

I just wish it was that clear while in-field.But things go so friggin' fast that you dont have time to break down the interraction while in field.

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@Gman82-Yea you're right;I didnt FTC at all really.

In fact,I showed too much willingness to want to be there.

Im definitely gonna google the AFC Adam concept you spoke of;I need that(lol).

Been running in the ultra-bitchy types lately.

Lol I like your routine about bananas & mosquitos.

It's sought of neggish & witty too.

I get the concept Gman.

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I think there are HB10s and HB10s that are feeling shitty, they might as well be HB12s lol.

I haven't approached a 10 in ages.
I haven't got my shit sorted yet, baby steps.

Keep us posted on your work mate.


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@Gman82-Lmao @ HB12's.

So Gman,you're pretty much a newbie?

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I see where you're coming from.

Even strippers sometimes don't like to be viewed as sluts or put out easily.

Tip - strip clubs are a great place to game HB10's.


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