I am rather new to all this and after trying the club scene I felt that it does not work for me. So I am looking into trying some day game.I have a unique skill that I am hoping to use in a routine, at the same time maybe this could increase my value. Girls likes guys with skills right.

I can draw naked women. I am actually quite good at it. Quite often women would approach me to comment on them, but with my lack of game experience I just never managed to convert it into attraction. I have number closed quite a few times in clubs but never managed to get any further after that.

I would like to know if anyone has any idea how I can combine the skills that I have and also at the same time what I can try to overcome my short comings. For example. Hot girl right up ahead. I stop her and say "Hi. I would like to get your opinion on something. I have this one drawing that blaady blaa." I have no idea what to put in those blanks. Maybe lead in somhow to asking her to pose for me. Play on that titanic fantasy women have. Also somehow make the more naughty of the drawings seem playful and fun. Posably dare her somehow for example "I am not sure if you can handle these other drawings. They do get quite crazy."

I dont know. The pieces all seem to be there I just dont know how to fit them all together. Help would be awesome.

Cheers.

How quickly can you draw these pictures?

It takes many many hours. I have thought about what you are heading towards but that would work better for someone who does characatours. I am more of a fantasy pin up artist.

I tried something at the gym this morning. I walked up to one of the trainers. Super fit and super hot. I made as if I thought she was someone else and told her that I was intending to show this other person some of my art. I was making as if I was about to leave and she stopped me asking if she could see them. We spent the next 30 minuets sitting while she looked at them. I made sure to touch her when ever it seemed appropriate. Like shaking her hand and lingering a little. Or bumping gently into her while reaching for the drawing book. I played at being embarrassed about some of the pictures because they show a little to much. This just made her want to see them even more. I talked about how the drawing was a very Zen experience for me(Which is true.). Making them seem less like porn and give them a deeper meaning.(Which to me is also true.)

If I was interested in number closing I am sure I could have. But I go to this gym often and I dont want to shit where I eat.


Now this seemed to work because the setting had the tools for it. A private place where it was comfortable to sit and have a chat. But how to do it to stop women in the street. That is still what I would like to know.

just off the top of my head

kind of look at her with a vision. walk up to her and say she has a very different body shape and that you have never seen it on a woman before.

You: oh my god. your waist is soo...(pause) inspiring! in all my years of drawing womens figures i've never seen this before.
Her: blady blah blah
You: blah blah

i'm pretty sure that is complimenting her but its not actually saying it. shes different and odd but in her mind it might mean hot.

if she asks to see the drawings say "maybe when your older" or something so she has to fight for them a bit.

do what you did in the gym and make it about feelings and expression instead of girls naked.

hope that helps

Thanks for the replay. But I dont know if I would have the right energy to pull that off. If I would try that it would seem like I am trying to hard to lead the conversation some where. It would not seem natural coming from me.

Just for interest. Here are some of my older pictures. So you can get a idea what I am talking about. Though my newer ones are alot naughtier .

Bugger I cant post the l;inks till I posted 5 messages. Ok I will post them sometime.

The only way I see this working is as sketches. It's cool that you do serious art, but if thats used as a routine it should come in a day 2 or some time where you're trying to close seriously, not just a number or kiss. As an opener or comfort routine, you should practice doing general form drawings quickly, even nude ones of girls you meet would work(though I would recommend not drawing nipples or genitalia)

Just get the quick stuff down, do cute little faces (maybe even little anime style eyes, I know girls that would love that) and girls in a group would be begging to have them (and on that note, maybe don't even draw your target).

You're onto something here, flesh it out and it'll be a powerful tool.

Thanx for the response.

Drawing cutesy characters are fun. But back when I used to do that the only interest I would generate was from under aged girls. I would get funny looks from people very quickly.

I have found what I am comfortable drawing now. Plus the more advanced style gives the drawings more of a sophisticated look. Which reflects well on me.

As far as the reaction I have gotten from women when they see drawings that has some of the more graphic female features in them. It varies quite alot. It tends to range anything from.

"O. I see you have allot of detail in them." To.

"I love it. The forms are great." To. I honestly got this next one before. I am not making it up.

While at a night club she says"I want to put my face right there!" While she points out the girls neither region and pressing her boob into the side of my face. That was quite a hot experience.

I have never gotten a flat out negative response before. Maybe they are just to shy to speak up? Anyway I guess what I am saying is that seeing a womens response to the "details" usually gives me a very good idea if this is someone I would be interested in seeing again. And I say this as if I have been on a hole heap of days twos. lol.

This is just a place holder so I can get to 5 posts.

I get where you're coming from. I still like the idea of cutesy stuff, try it again mid-way through your game.

No one will negatively comment beyond "Do you really draw this kind of stuff? You're so weird!" and that should really be seen as a shit test more than a rejection. Be careful of girls being scared off by the pictures though (I'm not sure how graphic they tend to be). They won't say it, but you'll be able to see from their body language. If you notice it, shift to comfort building immediately and diffuse the tension.

Also there may be a rule against pornography on this forum, so watch what you post.

defo has potential if you could pull it off right.

one on hand it could come off really creepy, yet on the other hand, it could be useful for f closing "oh he just wanted to draw me and one thing led to another" and also showing other girls let you draw them could be preselection DHV, if i were you id approach it like this, go up to a girl from the creepy angle

"need your opinion, trying to sell painitings to this collecter, but of naked women, is it creepy etc etc"

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