Hey, when I signed up for the site I told myself I wasn't going to do this, but my response rate is way too low even after taking all the advice in other threads, even using the openers that have worked for other people, and usually customized for the specific woman. So what's my problem? Is it the pictures, or the attitude? I think it might be the pictures because I'm not even getting a lot of profile views, but what do you guys think?

To give credit, a lot of the text is cut-and-pasted from other people's threads I liked, but some of it is mine. I've tried to come across as confident and very discriminating, but not totally out of reach, does it make that impression or does it still need work?

Thanks!

http://www.plentyoffish.com/viewprofile ... d=17693674

I know good pictures could be tough, mine suck. But good pics help alot, I like your 2nd picture alot more than the first.

Yeah man...the online stuff has 90% to do with pictures and 10% to do with the rest. My budy is just naturally good looking, doesn't work out that much, but he's not thin and not overweight. Just blessed. I was getting so pissed off at him telling me my profile was the reason I got no replies that I challenged him to a pretty big bet. The bet was that with the same profile, same types of pictures, and same messages sent out...that he'd get 2/3 more messages returned than I would get. I'm not the best looking guy...not ugly, but overweight, asthma gives me bags under my eyes some days, and I don't have great teeth. This is what we did on POF.

1) Took 5 pictures each doing the exact same thing with the same pose and the same action. One at the batting cages, one by the river fishing, one looking like we were washing our vehicles having fun, one with two hot chicks he hangs out with (they say pics with girls are good), and one that was more of a head shot.

2) We posted the exact same profile minus the obvious details like hair color. We posted the exact same description paragraphs, and the exact same first date option.

3) We used very general search criteria to give us many women and started firing off messages. Never to the same girl, but we would just go down the list and take one at a time. We used three pre-made openers we found on here and one we made up. We fired off 100 messages each...25 with each opener only to profiles that had pictures up. We weren't choosy with how hot the women were at all...just went down the list taking the next one in the list. 200 girls in total between the two of us.

At the end of the 2 weeks we gave for replies he had received 56 messages replied to one way or another. I had received 9.

He paid me $500 and I vowed not to waste as much time trying online dating and get out there trying to meet girls in the real world. I'm not a pick up artist by any stretch, but if I walked up to 100 women in the real world, had a conversation with them, and asked for their numbers I'd get a hell of a lot more than 9.

The problem is you come off as arrogant in your bio, but your pictures make you look like a nice guy. You're giving mixed signals, this is a HUGE no for women in the online dating world. You either come off as a liar or insane. Neither of which you want.

I think you take too much advice from forums and online gurus about dating profiles and pictures.

Yes, its true pictures matter a helluva lot. But just because "action pictures" and pictures with women are great, doesn't mean you should go for that over a solid picture of just your face in warm weather (SHAVED!) looking nice.

I highly recommend that you redo your bio completely. Just put one picture of yourself clean shaven and a head shot, and then retype up your bio after reading your current one. That way you will be able to have the things from your bio that you like, but you will put it IN YOUR OWN WORDS, which is huge. Your typing definitely reflects your persona.

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I'm not a good looking guy and unfortunately am in shape...Of most of the numbers I've received I noticed that girls don't even check my profile, only reply to messages. My guess is, they log on, check their inbox which I'm sure has 2 dozen AFCs messages and only reply to the one's she finds amusing (me) or to the guys she finds very attractive (not me); if you're not a looker, no need for her to waste her time checking out the guys profile...She's got a dozen other AFC to sort through...