Hey Guys,

I am new to the world of PUA. I have been reading books and watching videos for the past few weeks and I feel I am knowledgeable enough to begin approaching. I have learned from David DeAngelo, Alex Coulson, and of course the Pick-Up Artist Forum.

So now for some background:

I am nearly 16-years-old and have pretty recently become interested in really getting girls. I have always admired them of course but I never had the balls to do anything. I still suffer from approach anxiety but I feel the more I approach the easier it will get. I am going on a trip to Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and San Francisco tomorrow and I feel that these two weeks will be a prime time to fine tune my skills.

Please read all the way through and then pick it apart. It's not very original, more of a collaboration of bits and pieces I have seen around the forum. I need you guys to be as thorough as possible and tell me everything and anything that I could change.

Routine:

Me: "Hey I need a females opinion on something. You wanna help?"

HB: "Yeah, sure."

Me: "Ok great, who do you think lies more, men or women?"

HB: "Ummmm girls/guys blah blah blah."

Me: "Ok well I have a game to test that, do you wanna play?"

HB: "Yeah sure."

Me: "Ok, I'm going to ask you 5 questions. They goal is to lie to me. If I ask what color the sky is, you say green. But to make it more interesting I say we make a bet. If I win. . . I get your number; if you win. . . I'll give you $5. Got it?"

HB: "Yep."

Me: "Ok, what color is my shirt?"

HB: "Blue."

Me: "Where are we right now?"

HB: "Mexico."

Me: "What day is it?"

HB: "Saturday."

Me: "See it's not so hard. Ok, wait, how many questions was that?

HB: "3."

Me: "Just type your number in here."

If she figures out my trick and says "12" then I say:

Me: "Wow! Have you played this before?"

HB: "No."

Me: "Ok, so just enter your number here."

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So some things I feel can change or need help:

What should the bet be?
What questions should I ask to make this more fun?
After the game is over, should I continue talking or should I close and leave?
Is there any way to K-Close in this scenario?

Thank you so much!

Eddie

*Credit goes to Style for inventing the 5-Lies Game

Anyone?

I wouldnt bet a phone number or money. If she wins you're just out 5 bucks and she may walk away after that. If you win you get a number but she will just remember you as some guy who found a clever playful way to hit on her. If you are betting her for her phone number she will already know that you are trying to hit on her. I dont beleive it's automatically a bad thing for a girl to know you're hitting on her but something upfront like that should be done seductively instead of playfully. A playful game such as the 5 questions game may feel awkward to do in a seductive way (I'm not saying it can't be done - could be tough to do right after the opener though).

My advice if your going to be playful is to play for something fun instead. Have her do something fun if you win - you're going to vegas so it could be something as stupid as "if I win you have to tell the next guy walking down the street that I point out that you love him and want to marry him at one of those drive through wedding things". You're obviously going to be smiling when you say this so she'll think it's funny. If she agrees and loses she might be funny and actually approach a random guy telling him she loves him (if she does then she thinks your fun and she wants to prove to you that shes fun too - she's definately interested... hopefully the random guy doesnt stick around). If she loses but doesn't comply with the bet then just tease her for not being fun and spontaneous.

(if you use that exact routine be sure not to point out a guy she would be interested in... or someone who looks creepy - you definately dont want him sticking around)

If she doesnt agree to the bet altogether then do the same thing - tease her for not being fun. Either think of a different fun thing to bet for and play the game or move on to just talking to her. Talk about your trip and the fun things you're going to be doing.

Remember to escalate kino the entire time from the moment you suggest playing a game.

This is just a random example I made up of something you can use that shows you're a fun person. Girls like fun people and want to be around them. You can do countless other things to show you're a fun person. The most important thing if you're being fun before being seductive is to not be so obvious you're hitting on her (betting a phone number). Keep her guessing whether you're interested or not.

Do not walk away after a number close (you're on vacation - you probably cant make plans to see her again so a number is almost pointless if you walk away after), keep going with it and try to get as far as you can - there is definately potential for a k-close in any scenario. Just have interesting things about your vacation (or about anything) to talk about and escalate heavily on the kino.

Any critique good or bad is always welcome (I'm trying to improve my game too!) - hope it helps

Good luck man and have fun on your vacation!

You can do this, but having worked hard and run routines for a simple phone number, i have realized it doesnt take game to get a phone number, just a simple conversation with a good first impression, then you simply say "hey i gotta run, but you actually seem pretty awesome, let me get your number and maybe if your fortunate we can hang out sometime". Just smile while you do this, and say it lightly jokingly, its all it takes... or even better, get the number keep talking for a bit, and then say you gotta go. It builds more rapport

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FAIL PROOF PICK UP LINE: excuse my, im sorry to bother you but my father beats me, can i have your number.

Thanks guys, I will definitely take your advice and bet something more playful like you suggested. I really appreciate this!