this is not being dominant ... this is being threathening and intimidating... it's pure insecurity. he is just trying to cover something up by pushing other people in a corner. it's just overcompensation...

the surface level is not important .. it is just a symptom

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I had a roommate in college who was a natural, although it took me a long time to realize it. (I'm not sure this is a style anyone would want to follow exactly, but there are some really important principles in this guy's game.) Let's call him the Drunken Master.

We'd go to a house party and the Drunken Master would immediately announce his presence by grabbing the nearest girl and putting his arm around her or dancing with her. She would always laugh and playfully push him away. He'd laugh and move on to the next one, all the way around the room. This guy flirted with EVERY SINGLE female at the party, pretty and ugly, fat and slim. He would find their most attractive feature and act like it was driving him crazy.

Or to be more specific, it was driving his penis crazy. Every other sentence would begin with "My penis." He'd say ridiculous stuff like, "My penis likes your boobs. They should meet!" Of course, some people thought it was totally obnoxious, while others thought it was cheeky fun. But either way, the guy immediately fills up a room with sexual tension. It's like he's doing shock and awe with a whole room of people.

Watching him, I realized the value in being a polarizing figure. Whether you arouse love or hate makes no difference; the point is to arouse something. Heh, I remember a family that knew the Drunken Master's seductive ways, and in advance of seeing him at a wedding, they told their 19-year-old daughter, "Whatever you do, do NOT talk to that guy. He's bad news!" She did anyway. And of course he banged her that night.

I remember this politically correct girl who came over to our place and sneered one of his beer chick posters. "That's degrading to women," said this girl. Without missing a beat, the Drunken Master says, "No. If I jacked off right now and jizzed all over your face, THAT would be degrading." He hooked up with her, too, I think.

Of course, the only thing the Drunken Master liked more than women was booze, and he'd get so blotto that he'd pass out before he could close the deal. Or he'd lose track of the hot one, so he'd just plow the fat friend. Like I said, he's not someone you want to emulate to the letter.

In those days, I was a hopeless AFC, demure and respectful and patient as can be. I couldn't believe women would jump into bed with this guy. But now I know that there was a method (albeit an unconscious one) to what looked like complete madness.

drunken master ...
1. the guys needs booze , probably is drunk ans wasted all the time
2. what kind of girls is he hooking up with ? probably cheap ones...

his behaviour is not allowed in a expensive club with high value people... you know those exclusive clubs ? there is a different type of people there.
do you really believe he had healthy solid relationships ? do you really believe he does have a solid relationship with himself..... his behaviour is destructive.

sounds like his game is alcohol ...sounds lika guy who doesn't have control over his reptile brain... his balls got him by the mind.

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@Lodewijkp: Of course I didn't mean to suggest that his antics could work in a swanky night club or that his style was conducive to building solid relationships. He drank too much and his behavior absolutely was self-destructive.

The point is that he succeeded in scoring almost every night DESPITE these handicaps, presumably because he had a natural instinct for being the life of the party and for putting women in a sexual frame of mind.

For guys who want to have same-night lays, these are the qualities worth emulating. And if you can combine those effective qualities while avoiding the self-destructive qualities, then you can have a lot of success.

nothing to do with being a natural ... alcohol supresses fear ...
all his inner game issues are supressed if he is drinking alot of alcohol .... i don't think it's natural at all ....

of course over the long run he will get more confident because even he tho is wasted he does know what is happening... if you have no game at all but you hook up chicks because of the alcohol of course you will get confident over time. in the morning he wakes up with a woman all sober this will give some rational beliefs on how woman like him ... do the woman really like him ? probably not because how people are when they are drunk is different than how they are in real life.

i know you aren't suggesting .. but im needed to reply because some AFC guys who will read this will think this kind of behaviour is going to get them alot of woman and well being...

what this guy shares with other naturals ? alcohol removes the fear .. makes him more confident are careless - probably more rude as well ....
''pua'' natural or not have the same thing .. but they don't need ton ingest substances.

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I get your point. And I probably did a poor job explaining this guy's game. I should have mentioned he did the same things when sober -- the volume was turned up to 11 when he was drunk; more of a 9 or so when he was sober. Either way, he made himself the center of attention, he was self-amusing and building sexual tension all the time.

These are a few attributes of a natural, as I define it. Others may have different definitions, and that's fine.

It's a terrible mistake to get drunk to summon the nerve to talk to women, and a TON of guys make this mistake. But this guy had no fear on that score. He was totally oblivious to anxiety and rejection, whether drunk or sober. As for why he drank so much, God only knows.

Before I offer my opinion on this, I'll write a few more profiles to see if others 'get it'. It's interesting, but not surprising to me that even after these examples were made that guys still man-worship what does not exist.

Kasabi?

Did he died?

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