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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:35 pm 
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Hey guys. As this is my first post, I guess I should introduce myself. I'm a student in Philly, 22, and looking back over my relationships I can safely say that I was a classic AFC. I let the few girls I did get totally control me, and I used to think that, given the fact that I don't consider myself classically 'handsome' I would always have to settle for 5s and 6s, such that I only recently got out of a long relationship with a 6 that I basically stayed in because I had no other options w/ any girls.

Well, I recently decided to get off my ass and do something now that I'm effectively single again, and so I decided to get a few friends together, have everybody get up to speed with the Game + MM, and then start. My first idea was for us to all go shopping together and get some good new club clothes, and during that day get over our AA by just making some approaches (possibly just asking sets what they would choose between this or that shirt, etc.). Then start going out and working on openings, and then the next time kino, escalation, etc. until hopefully we get some #closes by the third or fourth time we go out.

Anyway, last night it was halloween and I thought this would be a perfect opportunity to overcome my AA. Me and my friend both wore masks. I wore the scream mask, and he wore this crazy horse mask. We went to this party, but it seemed like the whole thing backfired. He got a bunch of sets open him, but was unable to continue past a few jokes. Me in the scream mask got nothing and I was getting weird looks while in that dumb thing. However, things totally changed once we ditched the masks.

I probably opened 4 or 5 sets. The first was two 6s (just for practice). I decided that my opener for the night was, "Can you settle a bet? Two similar guys go to a party, one wears a scream mask, the other a horse mask. Which is better and why?" Then later I could introduce my wing as the guy that wore the horse mask. The first time it opened the set real nice, but then one of the girls boyfriend came over and I thought it would be way over my head to start AMOGing on my first approach. I exited calmly. The next was another 2-set, one HB7 and one HB8. Same question, excellent response, opened the HB7 but the 8 got distracted with some friends very quick, so I was basically left with the obstacle. We had an ok convo and I quickly made my exit (nice to meet you X...). The best set of the night came after. Another 2-set, one HB8 the other and HB9, dressed as two fanta girls, real sexy. Same question, opened up soo well. Started in on the obstacle (HB8), got them both cracking up. They revealed they lived in the quad, I respond, "oh well I can't even talk to you then" and I get up to leave - great response "oh come back don't be a sourpuss", negged her on use of "sourpuss" as best insult, got a blush and a giggle. My wing came over and distracted HB8 and I was isolated with HB9. Everything was going so well! Got her real interested in my background, she said she wanted to hear all about my life story. Perfect. Then, stupid bitch HB8 is so drunk she starts falling all over the place, my wing and another guy nearby had to fucking hold her up. Needless to say, HB9 says she has to go in with her friend to help her. Here's a question. I hadn't started kino escalation yet, but I felt that I'd gotten enough IOIs that I might have been able to #close at this point. Wasn't sure so I made some joke about helping her friend and they went off to do that, never saw them again... Final two sets on the street. Opened a 3-set, two HB8s and a dude. Same question, opened well. Getting into some material, one HB says (kinda late into the convo?) oooh, nice pick up line. Ignored her and focused on other one, but I felt that I might have responded with, "what makes you think I was picking you up," and/or I could have turned to other HB8 and said, "how do you deal with her ego all the time?"

Well, I guess my general question is this - at what time can you be most assured of a #close. I felt like I had some chances, but I think I didn't use kino quickly enough. Comments?

I know this is a long-ass post, but one final comment. I saw a couple of threads from guys saying how they think they're ugly and they have to settle and blah blah. Let me say this - there's a passage in the Game where Style describes Tyler Durden as "the palest non albino" he'd ever seen. I've seen a picture of Tyler Durden, and that guy's tanned, dark and handsome compared to me. I was opening sets of HB8s and 9s, the kinda dream girls I used to think were totally out of my league, and they were really responding to me last night. Not only did this fill me with so much more confidence, but it really shows that, if you stick to the techniques, it really works. If I can do this, anybody can. Anybody.


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hey man - sounds like ur off to a great start
and i was glad to see as i read on that u ditched the "scream mask"

it's def more difficult to PU if the girls cant see ur face and expressions
and that was a good idea turning it into ur opener
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Well, I guess my general question is this - at what time can you be most assured of a #close. I felt like I had some chances, but I think I didn't use kino quickly enough. Comments?
Well, first of all - kino is def important. Just practice getting used to it. Use kino during ur opener even to start off early - become a touchy friendly person. Not too over the top obviously. But even a touch on the arm or shoulder can start it off great. As for knowing when u can close - in my exp it varies... But, if u want to go by the rules (as i remember them - feel free to correct me if wrong) - you need to see 3 IOI's. Also, accoridng to mystery you need to have a 20-35 interaction to achieve a reliable # close (aka a #close thats going to return ur call).

so u think u got enough IOI's. Great. But u didnt start kino yet. if i was interested in this girl - i woulda went to help her with her drunk friend (*maybe) then u coulda started kino - plus ur a stranger that helpd her out -bonus pnts. But dont get stuck as the nice guy - make sure to neg them and kino escalate.

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