Hey people!

I've been studying PUA seduction for some time(3 month), and I learned lots of things, but I still have some difficulties when KC the girl! I'm telling some cases that happen on these week and got me really down!

1st Case:

I was on a bar with a friend, and we saw 3 girls and a guy across the street when the bar was closing. We talked to them, introduced ourselves and stuff. The guy wanted to get some drinks, so he went with my friend(boy) to buy some drinks. At these time, it was me and the 3 girls inside one of the girls car waiting for them. I entertained the girls really good, didn't use any technique, it was just talking. Everybody went to the beach and we started drinking and talking. I focused on a girl I would say 5,5 and could see she was on me, but I couldn't do anything to be more than friend, or anything to take her away from the group. It looked easy, but I just didn't know what to do. So when it was late, everybody went home, I got her contact and m friend got her friends contacts.

2nd Case:

We contact the same girls on the internet and they planned to meet us on the same bar. Theses time the girl 5,5 didn't go! But the other 2 girls went. It looked like they made it in purpose for the girl 5,5 not to be there. So we talked to these girls in the bar, and met other girls. I was holding a conversation with their friends and stuff, but nothing more than these. So they got us into the bar. My friend started flirting with one of the girls, and I was with the other one 6. I liked to the girl 6 for 30 minutes, read her hand, talked about the ring routine and she looked interested. But than I kinda got without words, and she started to act like she was sleepy, every 30s seconds. My friend kiss closed his girl, i didn't. We all decided to go somewhere else. The girls decided to go swim in the sea on underwear. We agreed. Everybody went to see and swim on our underwear. My friend fucked the girl in the sea, and i was like embarrassed, didn't know what to say, or do, to kiss close the girl. we went back home.

3rd Case:

I was in a party with the same friend, and we went to another bar, with lots of people. We met some people. 4 girls, and 2 guys. One of the girls was pointing to my friend, so we went there to talk to them. He started talking to the pointer girl. I started to talk to some girl, ad she was really interested, but she was with one of the guys, and he took her away from me. I talked to other girl that appeared after. Again, she was all interested in the conversation, but I couldn't make anything for her to be more than a friend. I couldn't take it sexually.

Conclusion:

I can go and talk to girl. I can show them I'm a good guy, and cute. But when its time to be more than these, for them to be on me. I just stuck. I don't know what to do. And when I see they might want something. I just don't know what to say to get closer and kiss close.

What do you think? or can help me whit?

Thank you

I occasionally ran into the exact same problem even up to a year after I started pua. The trouble was switching from a social vibe to a seductive vibe, and it puzzled me for months. I downloaded (yea I'm a cheapass ) 60 years of challenge, and it made it all so clear for me. The problem is I was relying on cockyfunny/social skills to build attraction, when in reality you can build so much more attraction so much faster by escalating from the start. Don't talk so much! Hold eye contact with her a lot and have a seductive vibe, while kinoing. Hold her hand and caress it, and as soon as a girl caresses back kiss her or rub her ass! My results since then have been exponential compared to when I had read the game and was focusing on being funny to attract girls. Being funny often diffuses tension! Bad!

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Every girl is different. But not TOO different.

In the end, It's not about girls.

Exactly what you said! I can hold a conversation, be funny, entertain the girl. But it looks like, if I don't get sexual, don't show attraction, then it gets harder and harder to possibly start the seduction.

Can you send me a link t download these book? 60 years of challenge.

Thanks for your opinion!!!

Anyone else can help me please??? What do you all think???

PLEASE

Dude, I kiss closed using pua methods for the first time yesterday

I used MM the entire time before the kiss close, it took me about thirty minutes to close, This is what happened

When i started talking to her it was complete MM which is my favourite method

Well, I was using negs and push/pull tactics, this worked liked a charm, then we bounced to another place because her and her friends needed the bathroom, so me and a couple of my friends went with them, she wanted to hold my hand when we went there, so obviously i built a lot of attraction

So, when we got back to where we were before, you could tell she definately wanted me to pull the trigger, but i was too scared, so then i asked a couple of friends what to do and they said just go for it, but i was too scared to do that as well, after i got back she was playing with her phone and was completely uninterested

So I thought of this on the spot and it worked great

I put my arm around her and said "Ok, put your phone away" She Complied

I look at her and started eskimo kissing her and then pulled away and said "Wow, you suck at eskimo kissing" She Laughed and tried to qualify herself

So literally two seconds after saying that i gave her a basic kiss on the lips and transitioned into a full kiss close

This Is How I Did The Last Part

Eskimo Kiss --> Neg "Wow, you suck at eskimo kissing" --> Basic Kiss #1 -->
Pulled Away --> Basic Kiss #2 Right After Basic Kiss #1 --> Pulled Away -->
Went Into Proper Kiss Close --> Friends Noticed --> We Stopped And Continued On Several Times Later

I was in the same position as you yesterday and then i just did that and my eyes have opened and now i know that it is sooo easy

Try That Next Time You Get A Set, And PM Me Your Success, I'll Be Looking Forward To Hearing It

Sorry it was so long, hope this helps,

Peace,

Troyden