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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:58 pm 
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Decided to start this after reading AFC daniels thread, cheers to him very useful.

Anyway, who am I? Im a reasonably attractive guy, known about game for a year. Used it and had some good success at partys, but

The Problem: can only use day game as not old enough to go clubbing. Want to get into game more so fully embracing it rather than just waiting for opportunities to use routines etc

Solution: using stylelife challenge as guideline, sarge everyday/much as I can and get good

Wanna be able to at least number close consistently when see a hot girl in day, sort my inner game out, and get good with women in general, so I have "an abundance" :D

Today went grocery shopping, just asked when shops closed on sunday to build up social momentum, tomorow will go full HB sarging.

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 Post subject: first day
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:58 pm 
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Right, went out to town today looking to do some game aswell as other shit I needed to do

Very first set I saw jumped straight in, even though I was with 2 mates one of which didnt even know about game, used basic opinion opener of do you know where I can buy this, made sure to add in false time constraint and disqualifier at the end. They were walking on street opposite direction.

Me: hey, I can only talk a sec gotta be somewhere but, do you know where a good place to get jackets is?

her: what? (bitchy, maybe shit test?) to this i just repeated myself
her: what, to buy?
me: yeah, well im not going to steal it am I (laugh)
her: umm a charity shop
me; ahhh a charity shop? nevermind (trying to tease/disqualify)

From here couldnt find any sets till way later when due to being with mate wasnt in right state, but all is not lost going out tonight so should approach few more.

what I learnt: need to work on expression make sure Im heard, and to beat my fear of approaching same girl twice a few weeks later, just mix up my openers, come up with 2 more
Also, go out alone.

Update more tomorow :D

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 Post subject: day 2
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:13 pm 
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First of all last night, went to pub with few friends, and oh dear. I approached one set, more as a joke than anything else, with the line "I dont mean to impress you, but Im SPAM"

I know, it was bad. I tried to play it off to make me look confident yet joky, the girl just looked terrified.

Anyway, today went into town, yet only saw about 3 sets over course of time I was there. I should have approached, but just couldnt. However, its not all bad.

Positive: I felt comfortable and relatively confident out and about on my own which ive had trouble with before, and I remained in state regardless of my external surroundings

Negative: couldnt approach 1 fucking set. BAD

I think I need to go to an area with more sets, so tomorow ill just pay the train fair and go to a busier town instead

IVe also decided to come up with 2 major long term goals I want to gain from pickup, and 2 short term goals to change as I go along

Short Term Goals: To keep improving my game by actually practising- do this by approaching another 10 times by sunday.

To keep track of my inner game: Do this by using material on this site aswell as any other I can find, keeping a journal: and pushing my boundaries to test and see if its working

Long Term goals: To become a solid pua, be able to attract and "pickup" any/most girls I see if I like the look of them, in both day and night game, to find a girl to live life with, an exciting LTR

To sort out my inner self, not just with women but with life in general, get my inner self wired to the best I can

just out of interest, how do you guys "organise" your inner game techniques so to speak?

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 Post subject: another day of practise
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:19 pm 
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So went out today, same local town as yesterday as too late to go into larger towns, and, I guess I made a slight improvement.

Positive: Again I felt relatively comfortable and confident out in town, Ive just got through the introduction section of RSD blueprint (seems great) and I can feel that transition just starting to scratch the surface, although Im nowhere near there yet

I approached 1 set! not great but an improvement on yday. At first felt toungue tied and would see sets but not have balls to change direction and go up to them, yet then i used my opener on randomer who wasnt HB, felt much better (though still not great) and finally approached a girl with opener.

Negative: I only approached one set and still have a long way to go until I can confidently approach every girl I see. My opener is also too low risk (False time constraint, do you know how to get to here, then use tease/disqualifer)

for now short term goals stay same. however Ive realised, even when I am old enough to go clubbing, I still want to master this day game shit. IMO its much harder than night game or a party, where theres a social frame, drink, and your with mates. in day game, there is no social frame, so by approaching you are breaking social norms, especially here in u.k, however when i succeed im sure it will make it sweeter!

hopefully tomorow ill make 2 approaches instead of one haha

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 Post subject: another 2 approaches
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:38 pm 
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Went out again today, just to local town

first of all approached randomer just for warmup, however not HB so doesnt count

had some shit to do anyway, so figured I'd just approach any HB's I saw. One thing I hate about daygame, is when theres a set in the opposite direction to you, across the road walking the other way for example, should I just start chasing sets wherever I see them?

anyway did first approach, A hb with what seemed like her bf. It was just a situational opener, do you know where ... is, at first I focused on her but then fucked it up by focusing too much on bf and ignoring her.

Second approach HB on her own, seemed in a rush but timing perfect (she was walking on same side of road as me, opposite direction, seemed natural to open her) I used same situational opener, but didnt use False time constraint or disqualifer, grrrr.

Positive: I made 2 approaches instead of 1 like yday. I slowed myself down and got into a more relaxed state. Also i had a fun vibe when i did approach and that showed in HB reaction

Negative: again need to approach more, also my openers fecking suck. If i use a situational opener for now its fine, but i need to stick with 30 day challenge and add in false time constaint and disqualifer.

Tomorow im going to larger town to look for job, so will approach a whole 3 sets lol with a few more interesting openers.

also Im gunna make a list of all the advice and tips on daygame, and over next 5 months use and add them all in to my attempts, i really wana get very good at this daygame before im 18

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 Post subject: night game
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:10 pm 
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wassup people, unfortantly having been able to do any daygame today due to family stuff going on. Will start back on that tomorow, and just try some online game to make up for it. that should be fun...

Anyway last night went to a house party. I love housepartys because you lose absolutly no value by opening, your under the frame that everyone is there to be social and have fun, and so by a girl not being receptive and fun, she loses value herself. and girls are there to have fun anyway, usually means alota success.

So i get to the party, and theres only one HB, whos an 8. So i go for it, first of all I just be myself and have fun, meaning im where the partys at. I make sure to meet everyone there and become mr social. this sounds like aloada strategy in my head shit, but its who i am naturally tbh so it was just me having fun, procreastinating if anything.

I approach, C + F, qualify her, push and pull, talking to her for bout 10 mins, to the point where im thinking yeah time to pull the trigger and make some kino, when she drops in she has a boyfriend. This completly throws me off, i just pretend not to hear and carry on but decide to eject.

Question: How the fuck do you go about gaming girls who have boyfriends?

anyway, soon 2 more girls turn up, HB 9 and 7. I start talking to HB 9 and guess what she also has a boyfriend, so I settle for the HB 7, make sure i qualify and kiss close and number close, good times

however the night showed me quite clearly i need to be prepared for girls with boyfriends, cos letting them 2 HB 8s go was just depressing, need help?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:51 pm 
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Right, backk at college for next 4 weeks so thought id come up with a plan to improve my game in the lesser time I have.

I will do 30 mins of inner game at some point during each day- most probs watch another 30 mins of blueprint/journaling

I will approach 1 stranger a day, if a HB then good, otherwise just make convo with any stranger in order to keep social momentum up.

I will make sure I am preparred for weekend sarging (have openers ready, know what day Im on) and approach six sets overall on weekend, 3 sat and 3 sun.

Right, now just gunna come up with a List of all tips I need to learn in daygame.

*Slow down, look around your enviroment to be aware of sets and be in present moment. make sure ready to approach
*Make sure I am head, deliver what I am saying in a loud enough clear enough way
*Display confident body language that will demand her to stop, for example if shes walking by on the street
*Slow down and pause when talking
*best way to approach is from behind, lightly touching on arm so getting her to stop- soul recommends even letting a girl walk past you so you can approach from behind
*Acknowledge any friends HB is with
*If using indirect opener, ground it into whatever enviroment your in (shopping advice in mall for example)
*Believe she will respond positively

This is all I can find for now, yet if i find anymore I'll edit and add in. Im also going to start another thread in lifestyle for how Im going to get that sorted

peace shall update next time ive approached

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 Post subject: something amazing
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:19 pm 
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Yo whats up back at college now, yet have still managed to approach 1 HB each day so far :D

just a quick update, managed to get into a convo with HB today.

Started with just "hey do you know where anywhere is I can get a job"

random opener but generally wanted to know, then realised was talking to HB when she turned round, first just talking bout jobs then teased her on where she worked, nothing more came of it really, but

Positive:

I can see progress in training myself in approaching every chance possible. When I approached anybody HB or not i was much more confident, not really making big deal of it

I managed to further the convosation, think the key is just to have something ready to say and go from there

Negative: again, need to make my opener better even if it is riskier.

That was just a quick update more for myself than anything

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 Post subject: time for the weekend!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:28 pm 
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so the mofoing weekend is just about here

good news for all, gotta date tomorow, need to get a general plan for that

but other than that, sunday I shall be going to larger town with hopefully lot of HB's, ive deffo noticed alot of changes to my whole AA, ive approached everyday this week in whatever situation ive found myself in, whether ive been "ready" or not, for example today saw a HB a opened and got talking to a while back, like a year ago, at first felt first bit of AFCness, she was walking in front so I slowed down, then I thought, actually want to talk to her, then when her and her mate started to blank me abit, I didnt even give a shit just carried on talking till they included me, amazing what state can do

anyways, eventually I want to be using direct game in daytime, but for now, im gunna use a real opinion shopping opener, not just crappy situational ones, with false time constraint, tease at end, and then a question to get into convosation.

gunna have 2 openers ready, approach 3 or more sets, should be good! will update after date and again for sunday soon!

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 Post subject: kino and escalation
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:27 pm 
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ah so had the date today, went ok but also have found a major sticking point.

As I live in smallish town where not alot to do, went cinema aswell as park for abit.
Basically, I had 2 main aims, to kino escalate so that we would both be comfortable with eachother in terms of this, and to create a fun vibe

A managed to create a fun vibe, and although i did manage to kino escalate, to point of hand holding/cuddling, i did not kiss close. even when i did kino, it felt awkard and i generally had to push myself to do this. and i knew she was into me! i knew that if i kino'ed she would respond positively, i just for some reason didnt k close or properly escalate. WTF

maybe i just need to man up, but either way my inner game is gunna be directed in sorting this shit out

not good

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Man up boy man up..


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 Post subject: head spinning...
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:24 pm 
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havnt updated this in a while due to being buttoned down studying blueprint decoded for last few days, all I can say is man, my head is spinning.

first of all, TD pretty much blows all PU stuff out of the water, explaining why all you really need is to be instate, and how this means the pu stuff does work

trippy enough

he then goes onto explain about having a strong reality, understood that bit although dont think its an easy pass to having this as he even says the only way to get it is to go out infield and get evidence to support your beliefs in your strong reality.

then the real mindfuck blowing explosion, he introduces the concept of the ego and how its different to self esteem.
So it appears this whole time, my confidence is just an illusion to heal the wound to my real self esteem. how fucked is that.

dont get me wrong, its a great product and I do see where hes coming from, this has really set me on a journey of self-development

or at least, it will do. right now, im getting ready to go out for abit of night game, have some fun, get shitfaced, and carry on the journey of life tomorow.

i highly recommend it, my whole perception of the world and life has been severly altered in the last few days.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:29 pm 
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right, when to town open party type thing so was able to do some night game.
got 2 number closes, approached about 4-5 sets.

just like i made a list of all the ways to improve my daygame, im going to make a list of all the things I need to improve in general.

In terms of inner game, im just gunna keep referring to the blueprint for that, gunna make a "journal" of how thats going in inner game section.

things i noticed i was doing well:
qualifying: after breaking my approaches down, I realised throughout the interaction I was the one qualifying, just naturally I guess which is good as its only now ive realised this was how most of my attraction was being made

another thing I noticed was how attraction was made almost instantaneously it seemed, if the girl wasnt interested, that was it, but if she was, that was it.
seems to go against the whole idea of DHV's.

things I need to improve on:
being more fun/interesting - planning to do this by just having a few convosation gambits at the ready
push pull- have a few ways of doing this
kino- realise women want sex and establish kino as early as possible
go out and game at every possible opportunity

thats all ive got time for but im gunna edit this post and add in the rest,
its gunna be a much longer perhaps harder journey than I thought, but one thats gunna be infinitly worthwhile, im tired of being aware im not reaching my full potential

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bro dont take this negatively i just have a quest if you have these stats you can transition from AFC to PUA?


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 Post subject: Re: night game
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:15 am 
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Question: How the fuck do you go about gaming girls who have boyfriends?
I look at that scenario this way - you cannot really game them if they are already taken. Just don't feel deflated at the mention of a boyfriend, keep being interested in the HB but just become friends, which is better than nothing. You will have hopefully gained a good new friend and just stay in her good books because you never know how things turn out one day. You just have to wait. :wink:


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