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Put the bow down, and walk away.

The answer is simple:

Shoot the monkey, so no one is put in that situation again.

cred goes to Ishmael Beah

Wow..this thread has gone for a long time. Either way everything said is right and completely wrong. I'll give three hints here- to understand this whole thing, one needs to know the difference between a narrative and a koan. Second hint I'll give is to understand this whole thing, you gotta understand history/psyche previous to the 1900's meaning, yes- start reading your histories. Third hint, this whole thing can apply to PU however has nothing to do with it.

Funny, didn't think African Tribesmen had much interest or influence on early idea's of psychology.

Or that there was much to pre 1900's Psych.

Duality exists in everything but in it, there lies a truth. To stay on the duality phase is to either kill your mother or to kill your father. Is it wrong? If you don't mind your mother dying then I guess not.
Thinking that you know anything is the wrong foundation. Attempting to learn more is the wrong path.
No, forget everything you've already learned and read. . . Let it go.
Again. . . more of the sitting on the fence. Accepting this will make anybody a more compassionate and better human being. Figuring this out will in fact save lives. If you want to apply it to PU, you do. If you don't, up to you. What's going on in this thread happens to all, everyday, all the time. Only . . . most are too ignorant to even realize these events.

Yes, I'll agree duality is everything- same time its nothing too.

I'd agree and disagree on knowing, ultimately I know nothing sametime I know something enough that I posted the thread for a specific reason. As to learning, well you need to learn then forget then relearn, and the cycle continues. We're not in a position to say we don't learn..or why even be here talking? You had to learn to communicate didn't you?

As to the let go part, sure let go of everything. Yet unless you know how to or what to let go, your stumped. The past is the past, it should be left there however there are many things from the past which still influence you RIGHT now, from your upbringing, cultural background etc.- if you don't understand that how can you ever understand yourself? In learning that you learn about yourself, in which then you can let go. By no means is this the only way to do things, however..its one route.

Mmm I wouldn't say its sitting on the fence (my view is one needs to address both sides constantly to understand the full picture), yes your correct everything is applied to life- thats the reason the thread put up, however there are certain lessons I'm aiming at with this, which haven't been addressed. Yes, it is up to the person how they apply it given what their background is, that said they'll apply whatever they know to said original thread. But then its like the blind leading the blind. From my perspective because of my experiences- theres at least 5-10 lessons in those 2 sentences on a basic level, then can be expanded much more. My perspective isn't the "right" one, yet from what I've seen everyone (including yourself kasabi) has applied a certain filter to it, which still hasn't got to the things I was aiming at. Your perspective is perfectly fine, yet for what the post was intended for- (which was my view initially), your in the area (given your background) however missing the targets.

That said, there are some points in the thread that were getting warm to what I was originally aiming for.

I'll further state; someone is probably going say why don't you just GIVE us the answers , in which I'll state- giving them won't help you, there is a certain process that needs to happen. (Now..then someone is going say thats really arrogant in which I'll say- give a man a fish or teach a man to fish, reading a book how to fish isn't the same as going through it).

Either way- thats all I wanted to say.

If there is an answer to this I do not know it but here is my input for whoever gives a shit.

The boy probably hunts a lot, so he has seen hundreds and hundreds of monkeys. He probably would like to get the best looking monkey (The biggest) so he can feed a lot of people.

The small average monkeys, he may settle for at the end of the day but when he first starts, he does not want to waste his arrow (or arrows, there not infinite).

The Monkey does not want to die obviously because nothing wants to die.(There may be exceptions but typically). But for some reason he does not just say "if you shoot me your mother will die". Instead of JUST saying that, he adds that if he doesnt shoot him his father will die.

This monkey probably looked like every other average monkey and was tired of being overlooked. If that is the case, monkey did a damn good job of getting this boy to notice him (or her) and not just walk away.

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For those that say your mother and father are going to die anyway, that is true but the obviouse delimma with that is the boy would be the CAUSE of his mother or fathers death. I could not live that.
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I went through like 10 pages of over analization so if this is already an answer I apologize

I think what he's trying to say. If you want to shoot, shoot. Don't think.

Duality exists IN everything. However, it is not everything nor is it nothing. You are throwing ambiguous definitions at all hoping something might fit; this is open mindedness but it is not here and now. Here and now, there exists a few clearly defined parameters of desirable outcomes. Do you want your mother to die? Will you say "Yes and No"? Do you want your father to die? Yes and no? Twack to your head with a stick.
Stick to the topic of your thread. Forget the learning and forget the unlearning and forget the relearning. A 5 year old who loves his parents will arrive at awareness without learning or unlearning or relearning. You have no leisure time to ponder the existence of your past and your life cycles. Act now.
You're only stumped because you're trying to figure out "how to or what to". . . just let go. . . LITERALLY. There is nothing to figure out.
Again, go and understand yourself all you'd like. The monkey isn't a psychoanalyst nor is he a family historian. He posed a question. Answer it.
NO! There is no prospective. There are answers that will lead to the death of your parent(s) and there are answers that will not. Sure, there will be cultural and linguistic differences. However, spiritually and morally, there is one answer. In terms of how individuals apply this lesson to life, it's infinite.
I understand your point but your analogy doesn't quite work the way you intended. One can in fact read about fishing and become a better fisherman. One can in fact read about Zen to better understand nothing.

The people who read it and didnt post an answer are correct.

I am now incorrect.

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Every action has reaction.
If its reaction, then start the action.

So I don't get what we are supposed to be doing with this. There isn't a question to be answered.

This, to me, sounds like a story that somebody began to tell and didn't finish.

Every post seem to be from the boys perspective. Thinking whether or not to shoot.

Fuck that, that's stressful. I'm the goddamned monkey asking the question.