So went out last night and opened up a two set(hb9 and hb6). I opened them perfectly built attraction by being playful, cocky funny, and negging.

I got her to qualify herself to me a couple of times but I needed to isolate her at this point to get into comfort right?(correct me if im wrong)

Her sister(oh forgot to mention they are sisters) was starting to get bored and even though the hottie was having fun she noticed her sister was not having fun so she pointed it out and said: "dont exclude her from the conversation".

At this point I used that to neg her so I excluded the hottie and started talking to her sister lol. all in all I was in set for about 20 min with these girls when they just left.

I didn't want to follow them so I gave them a 5 min head start before I looked for them. I nonchalantly found them and started making convo again. I got both their numbers. Got HB6 number first figuring the hottie would follow then I got HB9 number. HB6 is Jackie and HB9 put her self down as Hottest bitch ever lol. After I got there numbers they both left again lol???

I followed them this time because my pivot was next to them. When i greeted my pivot I overheard them say "thats the guy that was just talking to us" and they walked away. I wasnt even talking to them so I think they didnt see me see them. If they saw me talk to my pivot I should have been a dhv cuz she is a HB7 so this is just odd to me.

Seemed like they were running away from me but why would they give me their #s? Im pretty sure the HB6's number is real but Idk about the HB9?

What does this mean? Should i even text them to try and get a day2?

At this point in my pua transformation I am feeling a lot more confident once I open a set. I need to focus on opening and my game will be much more well rounded.

I think i can answer my own question. I didnt touch enough(kino).

Because they're not going to pick up when you call. If you've never had a girl give you her number to get rid of you, now you have!

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Trip on acid, not your dick!

Wow that is so demoralizing...

Da your journal is very inspirational to me. haven't commented on it put i have been reading it. I think I am going to start something similar for myself...

I don't know if Im allowed to hijack my own thread but I don't care the mod can just move it later.

Im went to a casino tonight to play poker, since I just turned 21 so this is barley my 4th time going. I sat at a table with a loud drunk guy, this being my hobby and my source of income a drunk guy is very profitable to play against so I stayed knowing he might be trouble for me.

I don't care if you judge me but I'm a shy, emotional guy(Im working on it). I also think that I may or most certainly have had a mild case of social anxiety but studying pua has helped with that a lot. Anyways this guy and I get into a $400 dollar pot. Usually I play online but since online poker is currently going through a prohibition in the united states, real card rooms are my only option(not that is a bad thing, I get to socialize). So Im in this huge hand with this guy where Im a favorite to win. The cards hit the felt and he ends up beating me. I get a little mad but in order to be any good at this game you have to control your emotions and not show any.

Point of the story, he sees me get mad and he increases his trash talking. He was making me so mad I was getting teary eyed. This is when he called me a little 23 year old mexican boy and I think he might have called me a bitch(I had a headphone in so i couldn't really hear). I was watching him do this to me but I couldn't react, I was frozen. I have never been In a fight nor do I like confrontation(Need help with this badly). Im really not scared to get into a fight if that was the last resort. I know this if fatally wrong thinking but I think I'm scared of getting into a yelling argument because Im scared of being embarrassed in front of other people(there is nine people plus the dealer). I don't like attracting attention to myself like that especially where we could fight. Maybe I am scared to fight but not because id get hurt but because it would be embarrassing how badly he would beat me. Im only 5'6 and 140 pounds, getting beat up would put the ultimate beta label on me.

The worst part of this is the feeling I had when all of this was happening...I felt like a fuking little dog tucking his tail between his legs, its fuking disgusting how I felt. I just felt like I had lost all dignity. The floor manager came over and stood behind me so I think it was bad what he was saying. I was trying so hard to just ignore him and was hoping he would shut up.

Im at lose for words on how I feel...I need a mission to get over this fuking shit. Ive come to realize I need to believe in myself, but truly believe in myself more than anything else in the world, more than the bible, more than anthing...

How the fuck am I going to stand up for a lady if I cant fuking stand up for myself... its fuking disgusting

Something I needed to get off my chest.

i know the feeling(the puppy dog imagery). so much indentfify with you. i have to work on it.
i don't have a clue how

In reference to the original post Im going to text the hotty. I met them wednesday night so Im gonna text them today(day in between). She put herself down as hottest girl ever in my phone. Thinking of texting something simple back like:"who is hottest girl ever lol" or maybe throw a neg in there like:"hottest girl ever...adriana lima?"

what would be a good neg to throw in there? Suggestions on how I should do this?



refering to my later post, I've been bullied before in school so that might be the root to me being shy and self-concise at times(low self-esteem). Im really just scared of confrontation not so much fighting and I feel like I really need to stress that. I would much rather have someone sucker punch me, giving me the green light to go ahead and kick his ass than have him trash talk me cuz then I would just stand there maybe getting mad but not doing anything about it, making me look like a pussy. Here is where the vicious cycle begins. I stand there looking like a pussy, then they call me a pussy then I get down like the little puppy dog. And I know it is totally not alpha to get mad nor is it alpha to show emotion and get teary eyed but for some reason my fuking brain has been wired to react like that which ends up only making me mad at myself.

Any material for Inner game or AMOG stuff that has worked for someone that used to be like me would be greatly appreciated.

So I texted this girl:"wow who calls them self hottest bitch ever "

no reply yet and Im not expecting one anymore.

Have been contemplating this dilemma about not standing up for myself which I have concluded that it partly comes from not having a clearly defined Identity. This also interferes with my game and openings.

Theory: Having a clearly defined Identity is what makes your game, your personality and self-esteem work for you. Not the other way around. This is what I believe makes you a quick witted person, funny, attractive—knowing who you are, or at least who you want to be and believing in it. This is what make you a natural. This is my working theory right now.

From what it seems by reading your thread, I would probably have texted the HB6 sister instead, and asked to double with her sister and a friend of yours. Then I would get a loyal wing to cover interference over the HB 6 while you slowly transition your game to the HB9. I know it seems risky to be asking the sister for the date, and she might become too attached, but she seems like she wants the attention, and her sister is looking out for her to make sure she gets it. I don't think they would have objected to that date, and worst case scenario, you spent one date with a HB6 while giving your wing a HB9 date. And I'm sure he would eventually want to repay the favor!

Hey,

Fellow poker player here.

First I must say you need to voice yourself. Don't let other treat you like shit specially at a poker table. I would have called the casino people so fast to kick this guy out, you don't have to fight to prove a point dude, be the smartest one and act in a way that he won't be able to do anything physical to you but still win. You don't have to tolerate his behaviors in any ways at all.

I also agree with TheFreshPrice idea, a double date with both sisters might of been interesting in this case and get the HB9 to come out.

Anyways, stop acting so beta man, remember you are a man too and you need to make yourself clear and vocal when you need to.