Hey, I'm brand new to the forum. I was wondering, if I'm stuck in the friendship zone with a girl, whats a good way to make the relationship sexual? or is it too late for that?

Just run game on her like you would anyone. Look for IOI's.

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Thanks for the advice, but it's more complicated than that. I've known this girl for over two years. I go to college with her and I live with her in a townhouse on campus. It's her, 3 other dudes, and myself living in a townhouse. She thinks of all of us as friends and only has sex with other guys on campus. I would try to run game on her, but she knows all to well that i don't hook up with girls much, and that i don't have much game. Maybe i should ask her for a charity fuck. lol

If youre deep in the friendzone dont run game on her. Youre just gonna freak her out.
refer to an earlier post i had:
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You definitely need to limit your interactions w/ the target. If you dont want to completely cut her off then like I said limit her. The times you do interact, make it seem like you are a busy person and other females are taking up your time. ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO WORK ON YOUR INNER GAME! soon as you crack youre done.

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Thanks for the advice. I'm gonna stop worrying about her, until I'm deeper into the game. She won't know what hit her. Peace.

Chris, most importantly other than working on your inner game since you do need to do that, is to work on picking up other girls and just as Justin said, keep yourself busy with other girls. At this point that will be the NUMBER 1 factor that would get this girls attention toward you, IF anything will.

Do you guys think that she will think less of me if I use her as a pivot? I know that she would have no problem with it, but then she may think "O he can only get girls when I help him." The thing is, I'm not incredibly attracted to her, I just dread the thought of living with a girl for a whole school year and never having sex with her. Last weekend she bummed a condom off me, to bang some drunk guy she brought home . Kill me.

Be careful using girls as pivots, especially those that have attraction towards you. In my experience & in what my sarging buddy debated many of times, enlisting help from a female who knows youre a pua & likes you is pretty counter productive in the field. If she is a female whos very driven by her emotions she will cock block you, do more damage than help.

In the case of my pivot, shes done pretty well in controlling her emotions and thus shes reliable help.

In both cases, the pivots will always look at us w/ value. We were clear w/ our intentions w/ our pivots and made it clear that were gonna pick up girls w/ or w/o their help.

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I agree with this. To me, it DOESN'T sound like she has that attraction toward you. In fact, my take is that she may be one of those women that would find it awkward, like the woman that won't date anybody she works with. Of course, even those women can be broke of that "rule", but the point remains.

If she has to live with you guys everyday, maybe she figures it's either fuck all of you or fuck none of you.

As for you dreading the idea of living with her for a year and not fucking her, lol, that's not gonna matter one bit to her. I understand what you're saying, but you might as well get over that point.

If you honestly think she'd be willing to be your pivot, that is truly your best bet at this point. And you never know, that could in turn end up leading to something else down the road. She may get jealousy stirred up if your game imroves so much that you are pulling the hottest girls on campus. Then, come one night, she may attack you in the privacy of your room . . . while you're asleep, lol. Don't hold your breathe on it, but possible.

Anyway, enlist her help as a pivot, and be honest with her. And, if she wants your help in return by helping her hook up with other quality guys, you better give it back to her.

Thanks guys, I think I'm gonna take her to a few parties this weekend and try the pivot thing.

tripp I love your sig very true. I would definitly try her as a pivot, I am thinking she will get jealous. But dont forget there is a ton of women out there!

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