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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 3:44 am 
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I want to know a general definition of "inner game" mainly because, I use MM, and many say it kills inner game, I want to know what is being said so I may form an opinion myself.

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Having faith in your self or something greater...


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Inner game is having the self confidence to follow through with whatever without being scared. You cannot have good inner game without loving yourself.


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Interesting. Well now I am thoroughly confused, why do people think MM kills inner game? I use it and I have never changed anything about myself, I am more confident than ever. Very odd...

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What is MM?


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Inner game is having the self confidence to follow through with whatever without being scared. You cannot have good inner game without loving yourself.
That's only the generic basis for inner game. I'm giving him the purpose or reasons for it, to make it easier for him to understand and implement a solution to the problem. The truth is inner game is only sparked 3 ways, which can mix, or remain separate.

1.) Having faith in your self and judgment- this is one of the hardest paths to walk. On this path you will be tried and tested and must accept that only you can change the circumstance. Many people have been broken, and many healed. This is not the easiest path, but the most complete. For you only rely on your self for solutions and no one else.

2.) Having a purpose that you can identify your self with, or allow to become your identity- This means joining a social purpose that associates with your beliefs (excluding religion). A social and charitable cause that makes you work hard, and inspires you. Many celebrities, artists, and government officials are initially sparked by this sort of inspiration.

3.) And finally having faith in a deity- This is not typically for the non-religious. However, this is the most common in the three, with having self-confidence is the least likely. Having faith in a god that can solve your problems often helps you to relax and live in the moment. It stops your mind from wondering and worrying, or allows you to come to terms with reality in symbolic way. For some people this is one of the most important forms of inner game. For others like my self this may not be so important.

Any combination or al of these can make you stronger willed. However, be warned that the path to self-confidence is a tough road to walk. It will drive you insane; however, on the other side is iron resolve and will power. Few men are made of that. Men of legends usually have a combination of 1 and 2, and 3 is not frequently forgotten. I say choose the path that will provide you with the most ease of time.

All in all inner game is NOT being confident in your self at all, but being able to accept reality for what it truly is. Furthermore, it is the culmination of a man's will power and reserve to move forward towards positive outcomes despite negative situations that surrounds him.

To make it short and simple, inner game is the combination of will power and self discipline.

Will Power- serves as the engine to accept reality for what it really is which forces you to make a decision.

Self-discipline- allows a person not to become distracted or deterred by internal or outside opposition.

That my friend is inner game.
In terms of mystery I'm assuming that people says it kills game because it’s too forced and unnatural which is partially true. You have to assess your strengths and weaknesses and determine whether or not you need too use pre-scripted material for gaming, or are you simply confident enough in your self to free style.


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What is MM?
If you have no clue you should not be responding to this post and giving people generic answers.


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My bad MM= Mystery Method (Indirect Game.)

I don't like Indirect game because to me it's like beating around the bush. I like getting straight to the point when I do my gaming or even just having a simple conversation with someone. Indirect statements have high success but low reward while Direct statements, if you know where to go with it, have a lower success but a higher reward.


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Now i am confused. MM = Mystery Method right? :?:


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Now i am confused. MM = Mystery Method right? :?:
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Inner game has nothing to do with God. Some Eastern religions can be said to have inner game practices within them, but that doesn't mean you have to become religious. Even the majority of those religions have no bearing on inner game or PUA.

Ultimately, what is meant by inner game on these forums is how you respond to your environment -- this includes things like anxiety, nervousness, confidence, etc. It's also the internal beliefs you hold which influence your behaviors and actions -- a belief that you can attract women decreases the occurrance of oneitis, knowing that you are attractive changes the way you interact with attractive females.

Hope the above helps :)
I would slightly disagree that it does not involve a god. Often times a god will help a person rationalize something that may be too much to rationalize on their own. Now I'll admit that eastern religions cultivate inner peace and harmony; however, I would not dismiss the ability of god to some. I would even like to bet that some men on these forums rely on god in order to go on and live their lives. God ironically decreases some peoples' reliance on others while strengthening belief in their selves. When religion is truly and whole-heartedly practiced, it gives the individual something to believe in greater than him self and gives him the ease of mind. Ultimately the 3 ways I mentioned above are how MOST individuals reform their lives.

Now I am not at all saying that anyone has to become religious in order to gain self-reliance and trust in their own abilities. I my self am non-religious. However, the side effects of being deeply religious tend to be having faith in ones own ability. When a person says, "God give me the strength," they are requesting the power to handle the situation through being able to accept reality for what it is. Ultimately that is what its all ability, acceptance of reality at its core and how an individual decides to handle those short comings. Including with women.

My definition of will power and self-discipline was a good explanation and defining of inner game. Yes a lot of internal beliefs can with hold you from success. However it is the acceptance of reality in combination with a strong will power to start things, and self-discipline to stay on course and finish them.

In short I do agree with the response to the entire answer hobbit, but at the core of how a man responds to his environment ARE those 3 principles above.

1.) Acceptance of reality for what it is.
2.) The Will Power to push pass negative situations towards positive outcomes.
3.) The Self Discipline to stay on course and not get distracted by "Internal OR External" resistance to accomplish a task. This means you have the ability to resist acting on those doubts in your head like, "I can't get her, she's too pretty etc." or listening to a woman say "I'm not interested/ I have a boyfriend," the first time.

Most of the time counter-resistance is given and formulated, with both internal and external thoughts. Meaning those spoken in your mind and those spoken from other parties involved in any process.

How you respond to your environment will always be related to if you follow the 3 core principles above. These 3 princes are not how to get inner game, they ARE inner game. Gain these and there will be few obstacles including women that you can not handle. It will give you the ability to suppress thoughts of worry and doubt and do something any way. However, you broke down to a simple level, I analyzed the root caused. Discipline, will power, and acceptance of reality are all skills that can be cultivated just like social skills. And they should be cultivated in correspondence to any sort of gaming or task.


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Hobbit and Gaius, although everyone was extremely helpful, you two did by far the most, so thank you. And Gaius I am agreeing(slightly) with your description of why anti -MM people say what they do, but as I combine methodology and don't use stock material, rather stories that are all my own, I find that MM is no game killer. So Thank You again to everyone, you guys rock!

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