I'm having this thing with the ESP Routine. I know Neil Strauss says that when you guess her numbers wrong she'll enjoy the proces. But if I get the number wrong and say something like 'well i guess it doesn't exist', I feel kind of stupid and the girl looks kind of disapointed.

What to do brothers?

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well I guess.. if u ask her if she believes in esp, and she says she believes in it before you do the routine, you can neg her about being dumb enough to believe in it. so she feels stupid not u.

Thanks for the reply, I know what you mean but I think it's kind of harsh to neg her about being dumb for believing in something spiritual.

Any other tips?

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You are making a big deal out of it.
If it doesn't work, just plow with some canned material or whatever you want (DHV spikes preferred).
If you want to excuse yourself, don't ever blame it on her, just TEASE her.

I would tease her, and go on with another routine or srtory.

Hope it helps.

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brothers, ESP sucks man, at least with me it does.
Girls just don't seem to guess 3 and 7, so it'll kind of make me look bad:(

What are your favorite DHV routines?

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Last week I did the ESP routine. I didn't even introduce it with any story, just held her hands and said "Hey think a number between 1 and 4"
She said 2, I said damn and went to 1 and 10 and she did say 7.

In fact it doesn't matter what her number was. It's just playful and fun even if you don't guess right number. Also I noticed that whenever I do it, I must stress "The first number that pops into your head.. DON'T change it!", cos' they often do change it.

Also I use this routine solely for kino escalation. I hold her both hands and "concentrate on her mind". You have to play it here like you are some mindreader or something.
If I'm successful, I hug her. If not I playfully pretend to be terribly dissapointed and she always laughs. Either way it's good for me.

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If you take it too seriously, so will they. If you just say, "Hey, lets try something..." and do it, if it fails, you were just trying something, you didnt promise anything, stack forward. If it works, you just dhv'd, they may give you head, whatever. The point is, have fun with it.

Cold reading FTW here.

If she guesses the wrong number say something along the lines of....

"hmmmm, interesting...."

Hopefully she'll be curious enough to wonder just what you find so interesting.

Simply say

"Well, by your clothes/hair/shoes etc I had preconceived ideas that you were super-confident. People with lots of confidence almost always choose 3 and 7 because they are 'stand-alone', 'independant' numbers."

"You have me intrigued now.....let me try something else"

At this point feel free to transition into any other cold reading (though I'd usually do the '5 questions' routine to lighten the mood)

Hope this helps.

Hey thanks man, that's a great way to come back and neg, nice!

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