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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 8:01 am 
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Ok so I'm only a high school student, but I went to this event called West-Coast-Best-Coast (I know, it does sound cheesy) and I was suprised to have such a good success rate (in my opinion). After 4 hours of somewhat sarging I left with 2 #-close's and 1 K-close.

I opened everyone up basically the same way, and they were all two-sets; I tended to look for a couple of girls that either looked bored, were dancing with eachother, or were on the move (walking).

Me: Hey! Do you know my friend Wyatt?
Them: Um... no...
Me: Well he's gay, and my friend and I are trying to help him attract other gay guys, but we're not gay; so we really don't know how to help him out. We need a woman's opinion on how to make him look more appealing. (They go for this like candy!)

This usually brought them over for a bit, and then we changed the subject to something else. After I ran out of things to say I invited them to dance and I wasn't rejected from a dance once!

While dancing I tried to look for IOI's like squeezing the hand and stuff like that. I regret not venturing further with some of the girls, but I didn't know what to do when they were starting to lose interest and they either said they had to go, or I said thanks for the dance like an AFC.

When a girl just wants to dance just to dance, or just wants to do anything just because it's fun; how do I take that and turn it into attraction? I danced with two HB8's at the same time, but didn't know how to get them more attracted to want more.

This was also my first time ever doing this, so I don't know if it was my game that was working (on some), or if I'd just never really opened up socially. The only time I tried raw game was after the dance when I was talking to a girl:

Her: Can I have a drink of your water?
Me: I don't know.... Sure.
Her: Thanks!
Me: Don't drink too much or I'll have to charge you. (while she's drinking)
Her: (stops drinking and only brought it down an inch)
Me: That'll be five bucks.
Her: You can't be serious! I didn't even drink that much!
Me: I'll tell you what. Since I'm sincere I'll give you a chance to pay me back, but you have to play what's called the Five Questions Game.
[Played Five Questions Game and she lost]
Her: I really don't have five bucks.
Me: Well since you don't, and that I feel like giving you a second chance; you give me your number, I'll take you out to eat, and you can pay for me :)
Her: Blah Blah Blah (Totally blew me off, and I felt like my game was getting somewhere)

Main question I have:
- How to build attraction?
- How to improve my game without getting blown off?
- Improvements for my opener?
- How to close or what to do when I run out of material or just don't know what to do?

Thanks
-Steven


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:40 pm 
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I think the closing depends what you're looking for. Are you looking for an F close? #Close? K Close?

From what I can tell, your night went pretty well.

In order to build attraction, you need to escalate. Kino her, like you did. Look for IOIs. If you start to lose material, don't panic. Talk about the situation you're in at the moment while you think of material to talk about(ie. a trip that you took, something you did that was interesting, something that DHVs). The problem is, you were thinking too much about whether or not you should be escalating. Just escalate. Kino her, touch her back, pull her closer, the hand squeezing was spot on.

As far as openers go, I've never been really interested in them, as a simple hi is easy enough if you have the right material. But if you're interested, go in with a question, or find a list of openers, I believe there's a monster list somewhere on this forum.

I would suggest a cheat sheet. Essentially, always have this list in your pocket until you can easily pull these from memory. Ergo, always have a list of things to talk about that are interesting and are DHV.

As for not getting blown out, it's impossible. There's simply no way for you not to get blown out once. But the issue isn't getting blown out. In fact, once you get blown out, the rest of the night will become easier. Because you'll simply few it as a humorous experience. Remember, you're giving them a chance to meet you. If they're rude, or simply frumpy or someone you just think is a complete bitch, than kindly eject yourself and move on. No loss(do you really want to get to know her?)

As for closing, again it depends on what you want at the end of the interaction.


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:07 am 
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Thanks for the feedback. I think that what I'm getting at is that I want to test my game without my looks. Like I was texting one of the girls and she said I was cute and hot and stuff like that. Of course I like hearing that, but it makes me feel like my game isn't taking effect as much as it should and that she just wants me. I guess that the best way to get rid of this is to go for girls that totally outrank me on looks, because then the only chance I'll have is my game. Just thought I'd think out loud lol.

Also right now I'm juggling three girls that like me, and they would all lead to F-closing. Although I'm not officially dating any of them I've never been in this kind of situation. Luckily they all go to separate schools. And I'm too nice of a guy to fuck with someones feelings like a total dick. Any advice?


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:04 pm 
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Be honest with all of them. If you play it well enough, it shouldn't even matter if you are sleeping with other girls.

Ergo, if the relationship starts as merely being sexual and continues being sexual and there are no misgivings about what you want, and they're willing to just go along with it, I see no issue there.

Harem Juggling is a little challenging and not particularly my specialty. However, if you look around the forums there should be a couple of posts about how to juggle multiple woman.

And I'm assuming you're not planning on dating any of these women.

As for gaming without your looks, it's not feasible. I think you should just be happy that you are considered good looking and just go with it. If you really want to test your skills, go around and sarge as many women as you can.


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