TL;DR version at the bottom

had dance class with HB8.5

Background on HB:

Univ Freshman

Badass Gymnast

Cheerleader

Has crappy beta bf


First interactions with HB:

assigned to make a group dance with her

treat her like any other girl, no special attention

she DHVs - I neg

she immediately starts trying to rapport quite a bit with me (I only care for girls hard to handle, she seems easy so I stop caring.)

*time passes* Assingned to work together again

I start talking to her (for practice)

(I had started relying on lowering girls' self-esteem and having them qualify themselves for me. Tried on her repeatedly but didn't work. WTF? wasn't this girl easy?)

she starts being unreactive all of the sudden. I react to her unreaction

(shit tests? if so, I failed)

I suck. last day of class approaches. I have one last hope.

I'm super cool to every other girl (already gamed)

She's leaving forever. I stop her, shake her hand and say "it was VERY nice meeting you!" (in the most sincere way I have ever spoken). I hug her and her friend and I'm about to leave. She stops me and says:

HB: You're 21 right?

me: yeah

HB: Let's party

her friend interrupts: Do you have facebook? Add me on fb

me: yeah I have fb. blah blah. later!

(Shit! I forgot to number close!)

week later of fb chat:

me: hey HB

HB: hiiiiiii!!!!!!

me: so when are we gonna party?

HB: whenever you want!

(that line messed with my head. fuck. I proceed to be a retard)

me: ok this is my number xxx-xxxx-xxxx

me: text me your name

me: like

me: right now dude

me: or you'll lose it

HB: hahahahahahahha

*I sign off*

(she doesn't text me)

Next day I sent her a private message:

"Hey HB. Can I have your number so that we may party? so i can be cool like you guys?"

(she doesn't answer and changes her profile pics)

One day after that:

I see her on chat

me: Hey HB so do you still wanna party?

(no answer........after a while she signs off)

I then watched VinDicarlo's text game videos.

VinDicarlo gave me new hope and I had one more "trump card"...and also she started posting songs that I believed were directed towards me to make a move (...yeah).

A friend uploaded a pic of the last day of class with all the people in it. I tag everyone including her (this was my "trump card" since it might remind her of how she felt when she asked me to party with her)

and the I wrote on her wall "HB i believe our partying is overdue!!!"

she "likes" it......her friend "likes" it (great, that's all I need for my next move)

about 10 days later on fb chat (THURS)

me: hey HB

HB: hi!

me: how's your summer?

HB: good and you

me: I'm gonna get a job!

HB: sweeet! wher?

me: at Dennis' or however it's spelled

HB: when?

me: idk, im not supposed to work

HB: why?

me: I can't tell you, i'm cheating

me: i'll tell you later

HB: haha ok?

(if you're wondering wtf that was it was a pathetic attempt at intrigue....fuck, let's just do logistics now...)

me: hey me and some friends are gonna go swimming wed. you wanna come?

HB: sure!

me: cool man!

me: can I have you number?

me: plz (fuck!)

HB: xxxx--xxx-x--x-x-x-

me: I'll talk to you later

me: bye

HB: ok bye

Saturday

it was the tryouts for the next school year cheer team. she didn't make it. and seemed kinda bummed on her fb status. I do nothing

Monday (yesterday) on fb chat

(I invited her on fb event)

me: I invited you to the swimming event!

(no reply for a long time)

me: hey if your cheer friends ask you to hang out at that time don't cancel on them. We can hang anytime. or you can invite them too.

(another pathetic attempt. This time at VinDicarlos's Devil's Downplay..)

(no reply and she signs off)

Today

I'm afraid she might flake. Debating on using either "Undercover Confirmation" or "Hide and Watch" + "Preemptive cancellation"

The first is just calling her before the event on that day and saying "hey i'm gonna be 10 min late just letting you know" in order to confirm whether she's coming or not as opposed to "hey, you're gonna show up right?"

The second combo is going to the event. Waiting 20-30 min to see if she shows up. If she doesn't I'll call her and say "sorry something came up" and "cancel" on her.

I also texted her today "knock knock..." (no reply)

and now I see that she put on the event that she "Might" attend..

I am aware that my text/phone/chat game is horrible and can't stay that way.

But, I'm confident person to person. If I can just meet her tomorrow I can recover from this situation and be golden. I just need to see her person...if I can only do that I win.


TL;DR

Had ok interaction with extremely confident HB8.5

fucking it up in fb/text/phone game

asked her out to go swim with me and some friends tomorrow in fb chat. convo ended pretty weak


So you think she'll show up tomorrow? If not, how to handle it?

Thank you

I'll be amazed if she turns up. Ignore her and have fun and get lots of pictures or something facebook-related so she can see without you having to look tryhard anymore.

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I'm a winner - I am going to win.

Yes. I'm aware of how bad my situation is.

I don't particularly like or care about her. But I just want to keep trying, I think she's really good practice material. And if we become just friends that's cool too.

oh, and she has a bf. he sucks btw I can tell she doesn't like him

hey man to be honest I'm just like you, and probably every other guy- We think and over-analyze wayyyy too much. Since you haven't invested too much time in her, it shouldn't be too big of a deal though man- there's plenty of gorgeous broads out there, it's meetin the one you actually want that matters. That being said, if she's flaking, fuck her. What I would do next is try to find out where she's gonna be or what she's doing next weekend, and basically try to meetup with a group then- her friends and yours. That way it's much more comfortable for her, and to be honest probably for you and every other guy.

Well if she doesn't turn up you can ignore her or call her out.

Either are fine, I would personally only call her out if she reinitiated contact. Otherwise you risk being ignored as it seems you are being.

If you try to call her tomorrow you may even find that it's the wrong number.

Ignore the boyfriend part - it's irrelevant to your situation really.

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Didn't even read the part that she has a Boyfriend dude. Entirely different situation here, where you most definitely should meetup with her friends and your friends first, just to build comfort- Pending if its a long distance relationship or not, you don't want her BF to be there. NOR do you want to be just friends with this broad, or be "Okay" with being just friends. You probably already have a couple girls that are friends and that it really all that's needed. You're attracted to her, dont be fucking friends. And if it comes down to it, tell her- You're not looking for another friend, you are friends with plenty of pretty girls, but you want her to be your girl.

That being said, it's obvious why she's having so much LMR with even meeting up. She's pulling you along and having a kick of it with her friends. Fuck that. If you have her number... send a text to the "wrong person". HER. say.. "sooo do you realllly need me to help study later haha" , whatever it is make it sound like a girl wants you- you needa make her aware/jelous that she's not the only one who can get some booty.

It's certainly a situation, where this girl has some serious mixed feelings.

I don't believe that her behaviour has anything to do with having a boyfriend. I don't even think she has considered that.

Edit: Maybe that's too presumptive. How'd you find out and why? I am inclined to think that if the boyfriend were the problem then she would be more likely to show up.

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I think I'll call tomorrow before the event (starts at 12) to say "hey, I'm gonna be 20 min late, just letting you know"

I'll call 2 times max, if she doesn't pick up I'll send a text to "cancel" on her

I'll be the one to apologize and give her an emotional reason to reply (i.e. "oh, don't worry. it's ok!"). And when she does I'll reschedule another meeting when "she can make it".

it's my last gamble. what do you think?