I just wanted to know if learning all this pua stuff, getting girlfriends, great communicator has ultimately led to any of you finding the perfect girl?

Or are you destined to remain an mpua forever?

I guess this is directed to those with years of experience, I'm just curious.

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i'm fairly certain that the concept of a "perfect girl" is one that is incongruent with being a "pua".

to be a "pua", it is fundamental to realize/accept/dwell-within the notion that there are 3.5 billion other girls out there, thousands (or even millions) just as beautiful, fun, sexy, etc as the one you are with.

this keeps you from developing insane insecurities and clingyness.

also, to believe that a girl is "perfect", it would be essential to put her on a pedastal, which is another big no-no in pua.

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It could be possible to find a girl who is perfect for you; Adam Lyons is married now and I can only guess that he's perfectly happy with his wife.

A lot of people have different goals when they're learning pickup. Some don't intend to find the "perfect girl" at all. I currently don't plan on getting married, but I have a girlfriend at the moment. She's great but I know that I'll get back in the game full throttle some day, though, because in my view nothing lasts forever, and my current relationship is no exception.

I've noticed, though, that a lot of great PUAs are constantly looking for that perfect girl that they can be perfectly happy with, and their thirst and search for this perfect romance is what fuels their success with countless women. PUAs like Adam Lyons may have achieved this goal, but I think PUAs like Zan Perrion (and me) love women too much to be able to settle for just one for the rest of his life.

It's entirely possible that there is a girl or there are girls that are "perfect" for me and I just haven't met them yet, so that may be why I hold my current views. But, if I were ever to meet a girl who is perfect for me, I at least know that I'd be fully capable of seducing her.

I understand your question and for me, I think you feel reluctant to put in the work and effort to find that you yourself will not have a pot of gold at the end of your rainbow. It's a lot of work, takes a lot of failure and sometimes, it will have you thinking, why the fuk am I doing this. Now, If I'm wrong, humor me, it's how I felt and alot of guys won't go through that process and will give up after the first few failed attempts by thinking, there is no way I can get this...or like me, one year into it, I thought I found the girl of my dreams and was happy that pick up allowed me to have a good relationship with a girl like this, problem was, I was still needy and shouldn't have stopped learning, not gaming girls, but improving me...I got a girl, I stopped!

I have been in this for over two years now but since Jan of this year, it's really been key for me. I see things different now. I'm not concerned with pickup, I'm concerned with me, my well being, the friends I surround myself with and what I choose to do with my free time. My results, I have friends wanting to spend more time with me, when friends introduce me to their friends (Mind you, only one close friend knows about game, no one else) we don't have any super introductions practiced, they just say, this guy is cool as fuck, talk to him, you'll see...At the end of the day, I may not have went home with a girl, but it's also not my intention to be that try hard either.

Long story short, I don't regret what I have chosen for myself. Why? Because, now I can socialize as to before, I couldn't. If I don't like a person, I'm not an ass about it, I just politely excuse myself and find someone else to talk to or make another friend. Before, I'd take anyone that would be my friend because I had no options. As far as girls go, there will always be a challenge, an obstacle that keeps you from getting in good with her or getting in the panties, which ever you choose. Either way, you will be equipped and guess what, you'll actually have a chance.

All I know, is that for me, I know the kind of girl I want and I know that she is out there...and where I was before, the girl I'm after would not consider a life but maybe, just a friendship with the kind of person I was in the past. I'm on the path to being a better me and I love it. I'm meeting people and having fun in the process, will I be single forever!?!? Well, now it's my choice if I want to be single or not...not theirs!

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STFU you are giving me migraines lol .... the perfect girl is an illusion....

What is perfect will suck a few weeks later and what isn't perfect can be perfect in a instant.

sometimes a accident prevents a bigger accident. Some guys believe the best girl is the girl they divorce lol

everyone is lovable ... i've been in love after i dumped woman for not liking them....i realized it was a stupid thing to do, still i don't regret it since there is no perfect girl. all woman are messed up ... lol just enjoy them

HOWEVER there is one perfect girl ....

she's a princess ... her boobs are nice and her clothes are wonderfull , she smells like rose petals and everyone likes her ..... yes .. im talking about me , im a princess !

IM PERFECT WHAT DO I NEED A PERFECT GIRL FOR ????

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The phrase "perfect girl" is an oxymoron. To think someone is perfect is to put them on a pedestal. Everybody shits and all shit stinks.

I'm not going to emphasize how the "perfect girl" doesn't exist like the rest. I get what you're saying and what you're questioning but that, in the end, is why I PUA. I'm not very experienced but all I know is the point is to be able to pick up any girl you want. If that girl ends up being perfect, in your eyes, then go for it. But as you've learned PUA's have different styles.

Taking perfection literally (as an absolute), then theres no such thing as a perfect girl.

Using it to simply describe the highest compatibly possible between you and a girl, then its quite possible there is a perfect girl for everyone out there. Theres no need to put them on a pedestal either

whether tongue-in-cheek, blinded-by-love, or just plain full-of-shit...

"perfect"

is a dangerous word to use when referring to a female.

i think that is why multiple people pointed it out.

it's a valid observation.

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hmm ok lol

Well one I never said there WAS a perfect girl,if anything it was in question form and I was curious. Guess I should have been more clearer. I meant have YOU guys found a girl, after choices to stick out of the norm and just be awesome FOR YOU?

You don't need to feed me all that pedestal stuff, I know about PUA so no need to fill me in.

@Cedius
Oh I understand nothing but benefits await me through and till the end of the road. I like your story, awesome that you find fun everywhere now.

@Chief
Thank you, a great answer to my question.

Reason for this post is that although I do find girls intriguing, I do love pua and all it holds but...
My friends have said they've noticed I'm not really interested in a single woman anymore, rather many lol. They think something is wrong with me. That I no longer really care about them as an individual and put them into categories which I will admit I do. So once again I wanted to know if any of you guys, have found and stayed with this AWESOME girl?

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I'm walking on sunshine! ;D

There is nothing wrong with having options...let me ask you...do your friends have options like you or are they content with what they have...

I feel that perhaps some of your friends don't have the knowledge you do...hopefully they are not settling.

I have yet to find that AWESOME girl or whatever I may label her to answer your question...I think when I do, I'll know...I'm sure you will too. Till then, keep weeding through them till you find a keeper!

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You can't make the same mistake twice, the second time you make it, it's no longer a mistake, it's a choice.

I've met a few girls who I could probably be perfectly happy being with 'forever'.

If they're still around when that's what I want to do, then that will make my life a little easier at the time.

Look, at the very core, learning 'all this pua stuff' is designed to maximise your exposure to girls. That in itself is all you really need to learn, because the rest you can pick up through experience. So there is no reason that you can't meet this perfect girl if you have your list of what is perfect. But I'd be willing to bet you missed something, or that something will change.

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My feeling on this is that I want to have kids one day.

I want it to be with a girl that I am proud to have has my wife/mother of my kids/and an all around quality person.

Right now though I want to have fun. So until that time, meeting a whole bunch of different types of girls is a great idea.

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I think the answer kind of lies in why you became a PUA in the first place. A lot of people read up on PUA articles, practice, learn more, practice, etc. for a variety of reasons. Some may be in it because they are looking for a girl they want to marry, and just wish to increase the variety of girls that they meet. Some want to increase their social circle, some want to get laid, some want to meet new people etc.etc.

As everyone said, there's no perfect girl, but if you wish, you can find someone you'd be compatible with in the long run.

If you wish to see multiple woman, that's completely up to you. My advice, would be to write down what you want from all of this. Yea, your goals will probably change as you go on, but start with a specific goal in mind and work towards it. You can be a MPUA forever, or you can choose to settle down. Neither is good nor bad, but simply a choice that you make.

Quality post. If you ever read any napolean hill his message is clear. Have the end in mind and figure out how to get there.

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