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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:48 am 
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Last night. Yet another incredible night.

Went into the centre. I started state shifting on the train by asking this woman if I could read a leaflet from her girls magazine- started telling her what a fascinating read it was. And such a good deal too.

Bantered with people as the train was coming to a stop. Then I went to meet my friend in the centre and asked people for directions on the way-just to generally chat with people. I started to have fun with them after the first or two approaches. As soon as me and my friend met we started saying hello to everyone we passed.

Then we started talking to bar promoters on the way to the bar. HB8 & HB8. We got a good chat going and asked about how much they get hit on etc. Loads of kino and it was generally a fun conversation. They tried to get us to go to the bar but we said we’ll come down another time and they can introduce us to all the right people and get us free drinks-social proof.

Then we went to the bar and started working the room a bit, talking to everyone. We got a drink and sat down. There was a guy sat next to me and I complimented his outfit, I told him he was probably the coolest guy in the bar then did a lame magic trick on him which got a few laughs.

A barwoman walked past in a bowler hat and I asked to try it on. I said I’ve wanted to buy one for ages but not sure if I can pull it off. She said she thought I could. I told her I needed to walk around in it to feel comfortable. I told her we we’re going to do some role play as if passing in the street. I got up and walked to the other end of the bar. Then walked very esquire gentlemanly towards her and tipped the hat. She laughed as did my friend and the whole bar watched smiling. It felt good.

We then met another guy that my friend had met on a forum. He was a really cool guy. He clearly knew his shit and was happy to give us feedback on our approaches throughout the night. He blew me away once or twice with his approaches and closes.

We then headed off to a club and another friend joined us. We challenged each other to do approaches. We were getting blown out every time, it started to get funny. The pressure of someone challenging me was great though-just pulling the trigger and approaching and not caring if you fuck it up.

Noteworthy parts of the night were a number close, HB8 & a kiss close0 HB8 and a kiss close. One approach that could have gone terribly wrong was just before we left. Two set talking at the bar. Three second rule. I went straight in (thinking they were on their own).

I approached them, sort of from the side but it was a bit awkward as her friend ignored me initially. I said it was odd I was asking her and not a guy but that the last guy I asked told me to fuck off. I asked her if there are any good places to go in Bristol just to chill out and talk to people. (we both spoke about how the club had quite a few douchebags that night). She asked where I was from and I admitted Bristol but that I hadn’t been out since I was about seventeen and that I used to just get drunk and go to the superclubs but now I just want to meet people. It all just seemed a bit obvious that I was hitting on her. And about twenty second in, about five people turned around and just started looking at us- I didn’t realise they were with her-ouch.

A guy (BF) came out of nowhere and I quickly introduced myself and stated my business. He asked how old I was and I told him and he laughed- stating how many years I had on him. We all knew I was trying to hit on his GF. It was quite funny. I told him why I asked her and not a guy, blah blah blah and told him she wasn’t any help anyway because she’s from London-but he’d know better than me-he laughed (good.)

He recommended a few places and I thanked him and ejected. It could have gone horribly wrong but think I managed to disarm the situation slightly. He also seemed a genuinely nice, tolerant guy. It’s nice to know not every guy wants to beat you to a pulp the minute he thinks you’re hitting on his girlfriend.

I also number closed a HB8 I passed in the street on the way home. She walked past and offered up some ridiculous eye contact. So I spun around and went after her and went in pretty much exactly like this:

Adam Lyons' Student Direct Game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sY83egXIlA



A great night all in all. I’m texting Thursdays number closes today so I’ll let you know if anything develops. I feel like I’m starting to kill off AA with the approach challenges I’m sharing with my friend.

Would love to hear any tips or feedback.


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[quote="Hobbit"]Look at this for dealing with dates.

i-like-you-you-like-me-vt79450.html?highlight=[/quote]

Insightful thread man, thanks.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:39 pm 
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I did some daygame yesterday. The combination of Friday night, yesterday and general feedback have lead to the following:

-Slow the fuck down (Yesterday I was talking so fast and I think I spoke over a girl at one point.)
-Advice from a very experienced guy Friday night "Give less of a f**k"
-Obey the three second rule as much as possible

I've found on a few occasions now- that if you can link arms on a moving set it makes the situation much lighter and fun, equals easy kino and makes you seem like a very fun and charismatic person.

I did this yesterday on a HB9 and commented about how romantic it was that we were walking in sync. She laughed, agreed and stopped to talk.

I managed to number close her. It might lead somewhere. It might not. I've got a whole summer and I'd like to try and keep the intensity up. And see what I can achieve.


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I want to talk about state shifting again. More experienced guys might not need to do this- I don't know. But it has really helped me.


Credit Andy Yosha @ Daygame TV.


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Went for drinks with the HB9 last night.

I complimented her when I met her and got her to spin for me. I linked with her initially on the way to the bar and was generally very playful. I told her two rules of the night were 1) It has to be fun & 2) it can’t be an interview. I’m still not sure if this was a good move. But it did allow me to demonstrate value. And talk about how dull it is when a guy interviews you.

I spent the first half of the night trying to make her laugh. We were taking it in turn to buy rounds. She was happy to get drunk- encouraging me to do the same. I busted on her and said she was trying to take advantage. I analysed her handwriting and this absolutely bombed-Haha. But I managed to recover. More chit chat. I approached a seated three set while she was in the bathroom and just made small talk. (I knew one of them from school.) She returned and was waiting thirty seconds or so for me. (Again-I don’t know if this was a good idea.) Then we started to talk about what we find attractive in the opposite sex and I got her to qualify herself.

We spent the better half of the night talking about sex. Things got pretty deep, it was cool. We fooled around in the bar a bit. We decided to go another venue and I think this is where some of the sexual tension died-it was cold and neither of us were wearing or saying much.

One more drink at another bar. I went to the toilet. She was getting our round at the bar. I introduced myself again and asked what she did for a living. She said she was an escort. I told her I was a secret agent. This worked out brilliantly as they were projecting a James bond film in the bar. I asked what type of character she found more attractive James bond or Tyler Durden-she said James Bond.

I said that the bar would be closing soon but that it would be cool to keep chatting. We both knew we didn’t have to be up the following day. I asked if she fancied coffee the next day. She agreed. I asked her what time she thought we’d be getting up. This bombed-she didn’t get it. I then asked if she minded me making myself breakfast if I was up before her. This bombed-equally.

The bar started to close and I said that tonight had been fun and we shouldn’t let the fact that the bar was closing ruin that. Taxi back to hers. Probably should have tried to escalate in the taxi. She took me upstairs and asked where I wanted to sleep. I said her room would be fine. We got into bed and she asked for a massage. She passed me some oil. I realised I missed a massive opportunity to turn her on here. She seemed to enjoy the massage but I definitely could have moved things south and paid attention to her breasts. I tried but she was on her front and had her bra on. Should have been more forceful I think. (She said she likes being told what to do.)

I think if had started to massage her legs/ass I could easily have got her really turned on-opportunity missed. We started to make out; I was rubbing my thigh on her pussy. She objected. I should have objected first-another opportunity missed. She said that it would result in us having sex. I told her I don’t sleep with girls on first dates. I wanted to do some kind of freeze out. But I was in her house, in her room. No music, no lights. I had no idea what to do. She got up and got dressed this morning, we chatted for a while and I left.

Things went well last night but I can’t help feeling that I let things cool off at the first bar. And that I missed some opportunities back at hers.

Anyone got any ideas?


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:14 pm 
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Massive interest from a walking two set outside the train station yesterday. I bottled it. I kept walking. I forced myself to turn around. I caught up with them. They were at the station. Sadly they were part of a huge group of people. I went to the toilet and thought of a way to open the whole group and even to isolate the two girls.

I came out of the station, ready to approach and they had jumped on a bus.

Lesson learned-obey the three second rule!


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I enjoy reading your posts mate, very inspiring.

Question though, do you not work!?! :lol:

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[quote="Bodega"]I enjoy reading your posts mate, very inspiring.

Question though, do you not work!?! :lol:[/quote] I'm a student man but I'm working full time now for the summer. Im trying to do approaches whenever i can and daygame at weekends


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I've looked in CP Profile>Preferences and it says BBCode is on. As it does now on the reply screen. Are links/videos not showing?


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Had another date last night. Different girl. HB8.

I kept things far more natural. No canned gamey stuff. Just fun conversation. We had a few drinks each. She was laughing all night. Things turned sexual towards the end of the night.

I suggested moving to a venue closer to her flat and she agreed. We moved to a bar that was playing old school hip hop and rn'b. We messed around did some people watching. But I made sure to turn things back to sex and go for the make out. We'd kissed already in the first bar. But I wanted more. I kept pulling away while we were kissing and she kept coming back in for more. I was happy to oblige. Haha.

I walked her back to her flat. She asked how I was getting home and I said my brother had offered to get me to save me getting a taxi. She said she didn't want me waiting on my own. I thought about waiting inside and going for the full close but had forgotten a condom.

I didn't want the awkwardness of asking if she had one. Plus, she's pretty cool so I'm happy to do a day 2. (She text me later telling me she had locked herself out of her room.) We waited on a bench outside her flat. It was pretty secluded. The bench was wet so I sat down and got her to straddle me. We made out; I rubbed her through her pants and kissed her breasts. She had on a vest top so I slipped the straps along with her bra straps down over her shoulders. I’ve found this is an easy way to get a girl to offer you her breasts. You sidestep the resistance trigger that sometimes comes with trying to undo a bra strap. Obviously this isn’t possible if they have a t-shirt or a blouse on but I’m just putting it out there.

Anyway, phone rings. We make out at her door and arrange to meet up again. I’m pretty happy with that for a day 1.


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Read this today.

The meaning of what you say comes only 7% from the words you say. 38% of meaning is your tone of voice. 55% is your body language.

Insightful stuff. Thought I’d share.


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My new “2 attempt rule”

My incredibly creative title hopefully sums it up. But essentially- I’ve decided that I will only make two attempts to meet a girl who I have closed- to any degree.

If she flakes twice-I stop texting her. I have done this several times with number closes and day 2’s. It works great. I Convince myself that I’ve lost her and just stop texting her. If she doesn’t text back, I haven’t invested anything. It’s good motivation to keep sarging hard.

But usually, they end up texting. In which case, I know they’re interested.

However-I know I need to be building more comfort before I try and close. This way-less will flake.


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After talking with a friend last night I decided it was time to re-assess my goals. I’m now dating a few girls so going out sarging requires more motivation than it has before. I asked myself, what do I want from this all?

Because my end goal needs to shape the choices I make now. And the choices I make now inevitably affect the long term result. I asked myself- Do I want to be a MPUA, do I want to be good enough to teach pickup? Do I want a relationship or do I want to keep sleeping with different girls.

I arrived at the following conclusion. I do want to be in a relationship- eventually. A healthy relationship. With a girl who challenges, inspires and arouses me in every way possible.

I’m not worried about sleeping with hundreds of women. Essentially what I want is the confidence and the ability to approach girls I’m attracted to. And to escalate the conversation beyond a point of small-talk. If I’m single I want to be able to go out and get a girl.

However. In the process of looking-I’m having a fucking awesome time. I’m learning some incredible stuff and improving a skill that any man would want.

But by having a goal. One that is honest and realistic- I know what I need to start doing right now.


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Joe I don't know why you were at the position you were at before, you always know the answers to your questions. Keep it up!
Thanks man. In terms of the position I was in. I'm a Uni student. Getting girls as a student is relatively straightforward. If you're ok looking, relatively confident and sociable- you'll meet lots of new people. As a result you'll be at the centre of a pretty decent social network-the drink will flow and you can go from there.

For me pickup is an opportunity to cease the opportunities that I would otherwise miss. A girl I pass in the street, or see in the supermarket or the train station. I don’t want to let these ones get away. I appreciate that there are going to be times when I really have to be somewhere. Stopping to pickup a girl isn’t going to be possible.

But essentially- I want to be the guy that goes for it every time. I appreciate your help Hobbit- people may frown upon pickup. But it gives men the opportunity to improve so many areas of their life.

Adam Lyons:
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“There is no such thing as luck. Some men manage to convince a woman to sleep with them-the same night they meet them. People say ‘Oh he got lucky’. Your mates ask you ‘Think you’re going to get lucky tonight?’

I don’t believe in luck. I think you make your own luck. Luck is a combination of two things. 1) Preparation. 2) The ceasing of opportunities."


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Been a while. I'm temping at the moment so sarging has been difficult. But. I've got myself organised and found a reliable wing.

I'm up at 6am on weekdays now so sarging has been limited to friday/saturday nights. It's lame but it means I can keep week nights for dates and dance lessons.

I also daygame on saturdays/sundays

I am working my way through RSD Blueprint. It is inspiring. There principles in it which I relate very strongly to:

Fight Club

-You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.

-Be who you’re meant to be.
-Live a life of your own design.
-You dictate your identity.
-You decide what you value in life.
-Own who you are. Do not live up to other people’s standards.
-Express your personality freely and let the chips fall where they may.

This and “The complete guide to not giving a fuck” (found on the inner game thread)

http://inoveryourhead.net/the-complete- ... ng-a-fuck/

has really changed my outlook on all of my interactions and life in general. I am now approaching sets without thinking. I am no longer relying heavily on canned material other than the occasional direct opener.

AA is slowly disappearing. I look at a girl and if I think “Yeah. She’s hot.” I just start walking and tell myself three reasons why I want to approach her. I imagine fucking her.

I number closed twice and kiss closed on Friday night. One close was a bus stop. She was stood waiting at the bus stop under an umbrella and I made myself cross the road and talk to her. I asked if I could stand under her umbrella while I checked the times. We shot the shit for a few seconds then I said “do you want to know a secret” and told her that I wasn’t getting a bus but that I was really attracted to her and wanted to talk to her.

The kiss close was instigated by a smile at the bar and I went in naturally- essentially just introducing myself and going from there.

I’ve started to keep a list of “rules” for myself. Nothing set in stone. It’s not like if I break one of them while I’m talking to a girl that I walk away from the set to punish myself or something. They’re generally just helping me focus and making me far more productive.

I number closed at the train station yesterday. HB9 smiled. I went after her. Introduced myself and told her that I have a policy of making myself talk to girls I find incredibly attractive. I walked her to her train and got her number.

Also: this song is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpqObhK4Rw


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