I guess I need to bump my playfulness..it's not that I am not playful, just I have trouble being playful around new people because I fear them thinking I am a freak...but I guess it's their loss eh?

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This is a GREAT Topic and i absolutely love your theory.
This actually has been my own theory for quite some time now.
I would also like to add that not caring what people think, and friendlyness are also great additions to this theory.
People underestimate the power of not giving a crap what people think (even if it sometimes makes you look like an ass, you can just roll off it and laugh about it.)
Add a few compliments here and there (don't have HAVE to be direct ones, it can be as simple as laughing when she says something funny.)
When you start becoming a powerful man, you have nooo clue what a good compliment can do to a person.

Variation:
"You're cellphone looks like a remote control"
Then grab it and zap around.
The group loved it and couldnt stop laughing but the girl didn't appreciate it that much Got socially accepted though

Great post. If I had to focus on only three attractive qualities it would be these three. Some examples of my success with CAP:

I was taking improv classes and I had an HB9 actress classmate. I would do some good improv scenes, displaying my confidence and playfulness. But that wasn't enough. After a few weeks of classes, we didn't even acknowledge each other. Then at some point, I corrected her behavior while we were out with some other classmates and that was the switch she needed. I was assertive and took control of her reality, and from then on she would give me the "doggy dinner bowl" look and an avalanche of IOIs. Unfortunately at the time we were both very much taken. Under different circumstances, I would have made her my girlfriend. And all it took was one moment of being a dominant male.

Related to this, in my very first improv class I attracted an older HB7 simply by being confident and playful. Again the "look", actually acting childish with me, poking at my nose, it was interesting to say the least. She didn't need me to be assertive, and I'm not sure how that would work since she was at least a decade older than me. So it all depends on the girl.

Display any or all of these qualities in an understated way and you got it! Don't go on throwing them around like fireworks or it comes off as try-hard.

Hi Brad- Sorry to do this here, theres no other way. But my messages arent being sent, they sit in the outbox. I tried PMing you but as usual its sitting in outbox. So theres no other way to reach you about this.

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haha -

whats up - i usually have the problem of being to cocky, and just an ass.. but i have fun doing it - and that usually turns them around - when they find out i am not offendid when i tell them ... "jesus christ you are skinny - i am gonna call you rexa from now on.. like the eating disorder"

she didn't like it - for real... but when she looked at me and seen that i just laughed a little bit and continued another conversation with other people.. she came up to me and interrupted me and said " you don't know how to talk to women" i shrugged my shoulders ( i was speachless) and barley said "...so...your not a woman" it sounded like i got kicked in the balls -

but 2 hours later... she was in my bed -

i must say though - that was rare, being that much of a dick and her still liking me ( of course i backed off after that for a while, but never said sorry or let off totally, just normal ) i have a problem wiht being to cocky - yes

but is it fun to challenge a girl of HER confidence - yes

produce!

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I know...I am playful with is like that...I would never say, "your cellphone is old and ugly." What I am trying to say is if I did the Abraham Lincoln thing, they would probably respond with a, "your a dick." and then I would just..be like..."ouch..and your harsh." see what I mean?

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I agree with this overall. But in my single young nieve days, I found myself trying to find something attractive about a rich guy who I was not attracted to.

This came from learned behavior, being told "Marry Rich" but I happened to be that lobster that jumped out of the tank and settled for what I wanted, and not what others told me I should want.

With this said, I do know that many woman will fall for rich men for many reasons, and be unhappy with the outer shell or un happy with the type of conversation they have with this person for the sake of showing off and security. I have seen it many many many times.

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It sounds to me that you are being cocky with wrong bodylanguage/energy. It doesnt really even matter what you say when you have the right bodylanguage and energy. You have to have the right playfullness and a slight smile when youre being cocky: cocky & funny.
Hope u got what i was trying to say

I have to agree with Premi about body language. I studied theatre for a few years and now I am studying sociology and more and more it's becomming apparent that EC and body language, as well as the tone and pitch of one's voice will really make the converstation. The material itself takes a back seat to the presentation. Good presentation with ok material is better than great materal that is presented poorly. Point being, focus less on what you are saying and more on what your body and eyes are saying. They make the more definitive statement.

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Very niice. This kinda goes into C&F a bit for conversational skills.

My question is, does it work in LTRs?

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go to the gym it works!!!

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Yes and no... I've always had a nice body, but that didn't stop me from crashing and burning before I learned how to be C&F and confident. Going to the gym did help my game though, in the sense that there were girls there to talk to.

Totally agree with this, thats partially why totally random openers are successful, aside from catching attention your presentation and eye contact can make girls interested in whatever you are saying.

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yea that is true playful i get confidence in the bag assertiveness what the hell?? like the definition of assertive ness be that?

assertive Adjective
confident and direct in dealing with others so in other words be sure of what your saying/doing even though its wrong or not wrong i cant explain but i understand it i sort of relate this to the never apologise theory for something

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