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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:43 am 
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K this is long but i want u guys to know the whole situation. I need help plzzzzzzzzzz

Ight, this girl from work "9.5" worked sat and sunday, same days i worked. Anyways, shes 17, im 18, and my one manager is 21 i believe. This girl who im attracted to, gets all close with my one manager and they hang out a few times. I guess they kissed a little, from what my one manager told me. Anyways, on sat, i only saw her for two hours. I hadnt built much with her, just made a few comments to her, made her laugh once or so, let her understand i was there. I forgot to say that i work at hollister if that adds any significance. Anyways, today i worked with her for like six hours or so. After an hour of working, she walked past me and i had some clothing in my hand which i didnt know where it went and i said, hey check that out, she looked and i put the clothing on her shoulder so she would have to put it away. Jokingly, she said jerk and i laughed. She came back and i eyed her a little, just to make her laugh. anyways, i made a few smaller comments which appealed to her and then i said, wow t his room looks really bad (unfolded clothes). So shes like, let me ask Anna(another manager) if she could work in this room a little bit. I said, wowa, that wouldnt be a good thing. I dont want u flirting with me :). She laughed and shes like fine, i wont help u out, then im like nvm i need help :O. I thought she was joking but then she came back and said she was working in there. So i talked a little to her and could tell, she was digging me. Then i saw my one manager that she likes and i go to her, um, we shouldnt talk anymore, i dont want to make ur bf jealous or anything. Shes like... what bf blah blah. Im like plz dont pull that on me, blah blah. I left and came back and she was still like, what bf blah blah. Im like, ill tell u if u tell me a secret. She said she "sung in the car really loud" and im like, lawl, thats not a fucking secret but anyways. I finally told her it was "the manager Jon" and shes like. Oh and didnt decline it or accept it. Then she worked in there a little more and i said girls were sexual predators and she was one too. Talked a little blah blah. She gave me a little kino and id say something and kino her alittle. Then i pulled the wowa,, hands off the merchandise babe. Touch me again ad theres a charge. She playfully touched my shoulder and im like wowa, 5 bucks rigt there. Then my hand brushed her hip while i was putting some clothes away and im like wowa, trying to be sneaky ay? 10 bucks honey. U owe me a steak from texas roadhouse. then i gave her one of my tests which is to see if shes digging me right now which is, i tell her to look at me and not laugh, but she couldnt and im like seriously, do it and she couldnt. I was like, hm my games on today :). Background info , i was also able to flirt with this one other girl, 7 (half butterface i guess), adding this cuz i dk if this may have made her think i was a player or something. Anyways, After that, she had to work in the back for a while i was there folding. I went in the back a few times, made fun of her for hitting on some other guy there and then left. Then in the back, i chilled for a little bit with the one manager she likes and i noticed she stayed the whole time. hen i went out to the floor to go fold more and i noticed she came into my room a few times to put clothes away. Then, i went into the back and saw her putting some clothes away (also was another guy hitting on her) and i playfully put my face on her hair and blew in her hair. She laughed and looked at me while the other guy laughed out of angerness. After this, i didnt talk to her much and at the end of the day, she was following around the one manager. ( i also forgot to add some more background info on this girl). She goes to an all girl school so idk how much she has contact with guys. She also preselected this guy before she even started talking to him.... She had her friend come into work and check him out. I guess they were pretty similar but i dk cuz i seem to like this girl and she seems to laugh alot around me. Idk what to do guys. WTF SHOULD I DO???? Try harder to get her, lay off a while? be the same? Help me boys. OH YEa, at the end beforei left, i went in the back and i was like, oh ur not gonna say bye to me, i c how it is. Shes like ohhh, and she walks over to me and im likegive me a kiss on the cheek but she only hugged me. SO IDK HELP Plz, sry this is long, just wanted u guys to know the whole SITUATION


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paragraphs are your friend, i read through it, but i need to re-read, but its too complicated because everything is all jammed up

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ask any questions, i just wrote it really fast cuz i had to read some book for school lol


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wow, lol first of all i agree with ice, you need to organize a bit better. you sound like you're in high school? that's not a bad thing but your vocab is a little premature. you use the word "like/and like" a lot... it's not exactly a bad thing but women love men who are intellectual. it signifies that you have a higher status than them (also that you are more alpha/have more to offer than other guys). i'm not trying to criticize though...
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She laughed and shes like fine, i wont help u out, then im like nvm i need help :O.
failed shit test =/. you should never give them that satisfaction. it shows that you may possibly be needy (are like every other AFC). it shows that you are interested and that you're not completely secure, etc. there are a lot of hidden meanings behind words... so you need to analyze and restudy your performance if you plan on becoming better. if you're confident and secure with your personality they'll find you more attractive. so maybe you could have said this instead:

PUA: "yea i'm pretty sure you can't do a better job than me anyway"
...and if you really want her to come back you could add
PUA: "but we wouldn't know unless we tried, right?"

or actually i think i would just neg her for being sexist or making guys do all the dirty work. then i might intentionally help her out later and say "see i'm doing this just to be nice, unlike SOME people". then continue to game her by making her qualify and throwing out some DHVs...
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Then i pulled the wowa,, hands off the merchandise babe. Touch me again ad theres a charge. She playfully touched my shoulder and im like wowa, 5 bucks rigt there
those are canned cocky/funny personality... it's getting too old and it's been seen on the pick up artist on VH1 too many times. you should at least recreate it to your own words or variation. perhaps you could say "fine i'll give you that one for free, but normally people pay for this kind of action with me" *smile*... i dont know, just make something up.

ok now for the situation... from what i'm seeing is that especially since you guys are young... you are getting her interested (A3) based on the fact that you're not treating her the way she is normally treated. you're being playful, flirtatious, friendly and somewhat of a jerk. in order to get her you need to DHV and show her that you are capable of being a "boyfriend". especially at your age, they don't want to seem like sluts. if she's going to an all girl school possibly she's under the impression that there should be one guy for every girl... and a boyfriend is ideal. you need to be that ideal boyfriend along with being mysterious, confident, secure and unique. you need to show that you are caring as well as random and fun... and you especailly need to display more status with stories, intellectual questions maybe, or interesting topics.

push/pull.. catstring theory. don't be too needy. maybe you can game her for a while longer and right when you got her you can freeze her out and ignore her completely. freezing people out is powerful... maybe you can try it just for a learning purpose... so if it works great, if not... then at least you learned, and maybe you can figure out where you went wrong.

hopefully this helps... and good luck...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:20 am 
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Well from my opinion:

Obviously she's pretty gawjus, so.. Make her feel not so special (Playfully) and lower her confidence. This will make you different from the other guys, thats what i would do.


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thanks alot
i wrote this in 8 mins without proof reading it because i had to real
2 chapters from All the kings men, 150 pages.


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paragraphs are your friend, i read through it, but i need to re-read, but its too complicated because everything is all jammed up
Si senior muchos gracias

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