Looks and attraction at a biological first sight level are in the eye of the beholder. 9 Times out of ten if you truly look at a woman and she is REALLY your exact type, “your 10”, she will see YOU ALSO as FAR more attractive than say your “6” would see you back.

Barring men who could easily mistake their 10 for a transsexual with fake boobs a ton of makeup and long blonde wigs because society has deemed that “the 10”, something is in the biology that makes people match up with someone who really turns them on.

Forever insightful and dead on. The definition of "the 10" is in most cases solely in the eyes of the individual who has been visually smitten by the presence of such rare beauty. In my experiences, looks go a long way in determining the rankings, but personality to me is right up there. For instance, I am a silly humored guy, and if "the 10" couldn't get my humor or comprehend the jokes on Frasier, then she would start to lose that mythical status that was accosted on to her, initially.

10's are the rare species that we all can't agree upon, unlike calling a black bear a black bear, we tend to detail each curve or lack thereof as something intricate in the construction of our 10. In closing, 10's do exist, but we have a hard time narrowing down who should or could be in that rare group.

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the 1 - 10 scale is not based on looks but based on how high the target is on the social ladder.

I think for a guy to setup a scale for 1-10, is a matter of individual perspective.

I beleive that this perspective is made up of inhereint intrests and also from social programming learned at a very young age. This is why people from drastically different areas veiw sexuality and attrative qualities differently, while some things are universally attractive.

IMO my scale works this way. 5 is my average, someone i veiw as being worth my time, but not worth walking accross a crowded room to get to. I base all my intrests on this starting point...below a 5 i probably wouldnt pay the time of day even if they opened me, a 5 i would interact with if they came upto me or if i found myself near them i may open for kicks.

Anything higher then a 5 i veiw as being worth my time...

However i trick myself into beleiving that all women are 1's and do not bother rating them except for that split second when i first see them...after that i do not allow myself to ponder her number.

I do this so that i do not intimidate myself when speaking with a women, also i do it as a kinda mental confidence builder. I change my frame of mind to say that while a women may be a 1-10 i am a 15, so thier number doesnt matter as they are all inferior to me.

just my take on it, ttyl guys

Its the whole package. She's have common sense, street smarts, book smarts are nice (but not necessary), she's gotta have a sense of humour that works with mine, because people have different types of humour. Even with all that, she still has to be attractive as hell. She doesn't have to be a bleach blonde, size 2 and be 5'11", I'd actually prefer that she was more like 5'4-5'9 and have dark brown or raven black hair and about a size 4-6 (don't have any clue if that is the right size. Skinny, but don't wanna be able to feel or see ribs).

For instance (hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here buddy) L.A. Tripp's wife is a very attractive lady, but just not my type at all as far as appearance, but with a great personality, she could move herself up in status for sure. Whereas the girl I'd like to marry, may be like a 5 to Tripp and her personality may not even jive with him and now he considers her a 4.

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I go about it another way. I don't even rank girls that I don't start to find attractive. Once she's just barely on my radar, then she's a 5. That way its not a broad range of women that fit into each point and I can define them better.

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Now THAT'S hot!
Not overstepping at all buddy.
Maybe you're one of the few guys that actually doesn't want her, lol. Then again, once you were around her, that may change too. But, either way, it doesn't bother me at all.

For instance, last night a girl practically picked me up at the club. Physically I wasn't attracted to her, but the more we talked and danced and goofed off, the more attractive she became.


Ka, that's actually a good way of psyching yourself up for women, considering them all a 1 and your above that.

My take.

Everything else being equal, an intelligent 6-7 is far better long term than a 9-10 who's a dunce.

That is unless you like paying for it, or just need a trophy wife to show off.

The former is definitely the better marriage material, if you like being something short of miserable for 23 1/2 hours out of the day.

If you're getting hooked or jerked around by women just because they are extra hot looking, I'd say you need to reevaluate your expectations and your standards. And concentrate on women that are easier to handle.

Everybody wants to fuck premiums, and that's great, but it's also part of the problem. Their short term social and sexual worth far exceeds their long term value.

Now if you got the money, the patience, or are just looking for a short term sex buddy have at it. But don't ever think of it beyond that.

So the moral of the story, have short term relationships with premiums if you like what most men in this culture consider prime meat, but marry discounts. It's just a good business practice.

I've met plenty of 6-7's that were far more alluring intellectually and sexually, etc.. They were a lot easier to handle and you could actually afford to turn your back on them. And if your career suddenly heads south, they don't go with it in search of a higher bidder who can provide the lifestyle they're accustom too.

As for what your friends, etc.. think? Who cares. You want them trying to bang your wife when you turn your back too? Question, you like paying alimony or prison?

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Hahaha. Starbuck, as always you put things into an interesting perspective. I agree with pretty much all of that, although I would have put it differently, lol.

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I think any girl/guy if they are good can be anybodys 10. Atleast for a night

And that is the truth. haha

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I also agree with Starbuck. He makes some excellent points there.

lol Chelsea.

I thought we were basing it strictly on looks??? at least I always do, I can't point out a girl to my wing and rate her based on looks alone now??
but rather I need all this insight about her past, social value, morals, intelligence, career and everything else befoe I can assign her number??

don't make since to me... Hugh Hefner's girlfriend Holly Madison is a ten in my book rather shes ditsy, airheaded and dumb or not...

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Yeah man, the initial impression is what we have to use to tell our wings about and stuff like that, you're right on that. And, Chelsea DOES make a great point with what she said too. I do have to agree with that.

And, I thought Hugh Hefner's g/f was the girl that was on Celebrity Rap Superstar? And, I still didn't think she was a 10 either. Hot, yes, but a 10? No. Honestly, to me, by looks alone, most of Hugh's girls aren't 10's. But I really don't like all that fake shit either.

I dunno, you can usually get a vibe off of someone of what they're like just by looking at them. That's about all I throw into an initial HB rating. Just the way they carry themselves, their attitude. All the stuff you get in the first impression and how you feel about it. Like you can tell the difference between a goth chick and a preppy chick at a look and I personally like the preps a bit more I guess, whereas my roomate prefers the goths, so I'm betting we'll give two different ratings.

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