Ok, this girl that I talk to is in one of my classes invited me to come out and meet up with her friends at some concert at a bar. She has a BF, but there is a girl that I am somewhat interested in that is going. Also, she said a girl that I am targeting may be going. I kinda want to go there if the target is going. I think I should be able to gather up a couple people to come out with me. I told her, I don't make any promises, so I left myself an out.

She started off asking what I was doing tonight. And I froze up cause I didn't have plans made yet. She basically said what else do you have to do? So I think I need to DHV and socially proof more around her.

Would it be AFC to meet up with her there if I brought some people? Also, could I neg them in a C&F way if I go out there and the bands are lame or would I come off as an asshole?

Don't trash talk about people's plans is generally a good rule. If you have something legitimately better, then a slight neg can work, but only when making the plans, not once they are arranged, othewise you look whiney.

Doesn't matter whether or not your targets are going. You've been invited, it gives you an opportunity to sarge with social proof behind you. You might meet some other targets that are friends of these people. Just hanging around with the friends of your targets and sarging around them, will work to your advantage with your targets if they aren't there, because word will get back to them.

If you are able to bring a couple people, then cool, but don't bring too many. If not, then no worries, show's that you're confident and don't need support from friends to feel comfortable.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

Go on out with them. If you're alone, don't worry about it. Just be the alpha and sarge other girls if your target isn't available. As Rye said, it will DHV you and will pay off for you in the long run, either with other better targets, or with your original target coming to you.

She flaked. She says, we're leavin' in 20 minutes. Then, she texts me 10 minutes later saying, "nevermind, I'm not going." Luckily, I made other plans or else I woulda been kinda pissed.

WHICH girl flaked? The one that invited you out with the group?

Well, good thing you had other plans. That's how you always need to be.

the girl that invited me flaked. the thing is i see her and we talk pretty often. should i call her out on it in a c&f way like "haha, you almost had me cancelling plans" or just ignore it?

I'd toss a light neg. Something that just lets them know you weren't impressed, but that you had other plans and so it doesn't really matter whether you hang out with them or not. If you make a big deal of it, then you come off whiney and sulky. I have done this many many times and although never trying to sound like I was very upset sometimes still came off being told I'm whining, its a delicate balance.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

Yep, DEFINITELY call her out on it with C & F and as Rye said neg her about it. Definitely. But also, don't use your line of "you almost had me cancelling plans". Nope, call her out on it and neg her, but DO NOTTT let her know that it bothered you. Basically, put your foot down and let her know that you have standards and you DO NOT hang with people that flake.

I would not even acknolwedge that her flaking on you effected you at all. You always have other options, even if you do not.

The next time you talk to her, I would talk about how much fun you had, specifically what you did that was so fun, and how she missed out. Tell her that she lost points in your book for cancelling at the last minute and the she will have to work on proving that she can keep a commitment.

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)