so just tried this out on POF and her reply was simply "Deal." Is there anything else that I could do to spin out of this or should I move on and try msging other girls?

Try something along the lines of:

Farewell.. Its a shame it had to come to this but you had that affair with Pablo

Thx, I'll try that out. I went ahead and msgd about 12 girls total, I'll see how it goes.

Just came accross this post. BIG PROPS to the OP!! I just signed up for OKCupid today. In 3 hours I sent 25 messages and so far have 7 replies. All are pretty playful about it except one who gave me my favorite reply, "I don't get it" ... and she's not blond .... I'm not sure what to say back to that lol.

Well i tried it with over 25 girls only one come up till this far so i am having some douts we need to invent our own openers

I REALLY hope you guys aren't still using this Opener...

I feel it has been overdone, like... A LOT.

Try using things on her profile page to connect with them..

For example, the girls that post shit on their profile like "dont just flirt with me, or I don't like how guys who like me for my looks," or bullshit like that, you wanna start off with saying that "she seems interesting," generally they will write paragraphs detailing their life so far, use that to talk about things, ask a few questions while making statements... Basically by saying she SEEMS interesting, you are already framing yourself as the prize and establish that she will have to talk to keep you interested, not only that, but you are showing interest in her as a person, not as a sexual object (something many girls are peeved with these days). And you get the added bonus of it being much better than a "Hey "...

example:


"You seem like an interesting person... So you are from the US and living in Spain? Were you born in the States or in Spain, and which do you prefer? You say you have been to NYC, I gotta say I like the NYC but there is nothing quite like Madrid and its people."


Another thing I like to do is to use NLP in my online openers, just paint a picture for her in her mind.

example:

"You like rain and you like chocolate, what about chocolate rain?

You know, I used to live in Florida, and one of the greatest things about Florida was the storms. Brutal storms, very loud and very strong, but that was what made them wonderful. You could always tell when it was gonna rain hard, you would smell the humidity in the air, the temperature would cool down a bit, and the sky would get really dark with big gray clouds. They would block out the sun. Then you would hear really loud thunder, CRASH, and see a flash of light in the sky. Then the drops would start to fall, a bit at first, but within seconds it would be pouring rain. If you were outside for more than a minute, you would be drenched in water.

One of the greatest things, was waking up in the mornings, when it was raining hard, and hearing the rain hit the roof of your room as you were waking up, it was so soothing and relaxing. But at the same time, it filled you with life, you could really feel in touch with the power of mother nature. I loved it. Is that what its like when it rains in Ukraine?"


Heres one I wrote to a girl who wrote about being misunderstood and whatnot... (also uses NLP):

"You know, I have noticed something interesting about people these days.

Most people these days are a bit distant with one another, they create this like, invisible barrier with their actions and language, where you just can't really connect with one another.

Worst of all, they tend to categorize each other before giving the other person a chance to truly show what they are like.

Don't you agree?

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to freely talk with someone, knowing that they are interested in who you are as a person, and what you can contribute to their experience on this world? Without worrying about what they think of you, or if they will accept who you are as a person?

I feel that if people were more honest with themselves and with others, they would find it easier to get to know one another... do you think so?"


One final example, a more flirty one, if she seems to be the playful kind of girl, you can go for a more flirty approach. Examples:

1st

I quoted her "you should message me if:"

""you want a nice convo, with a nice fun girl(: who knows how to have fun."

I bet you get TONS of messages from guys wanting to have a "nice convo"

and I bet you most of those are from very shy introverted 'nice guys' who start with a meek 'hey' or 'hello'

am I right? tell me, how many messages you get a day?"

2nd

This ones profile name is my_name_is_dani_taco, so....

"I refuse to believe your last name is taco, you have to be pulling my leg"




Pretty much, drop the canned openers, you wont be getting many positive results with those, no matter how good they are. Just be creative and have a little fun. I only use the Pablo thing if I can't think of anything to use for a message, which generally happens with the girls who have pretty desolate profiles...


anyways guys, those are my two cents

Cheers

p.s. don't be gay and copy/pasta my openers.... try to be a bit creative and come up with your own shit, bc really, how is that helping YOU...?

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OK out of my 25 messages sent, 10 replies. Out of those 10, one called me out on being a copycat, and another one was pissed calling me a scum PUA(lol) then blocked me. Another one was dumb and didn't know what I was talking about. And the other seven were pretty playful for awhile before they got bored and stopped responding. The furthest I took it was to the last step and she didn't respond to that.

So back to square one, I'm gonna be original and not copy and paste. But, it was worth a shot and it was fun for awhile.

i will give this a try tonight
hopefully this will work on dutch girls with the right translation

you know what also could work out really well with this

its the kind of pictures you have on your profile
i mean if you only have serious looking ones the girl might see it as a desperate thing
while if you have a lot of smiling and playfull pictures i think the messages will be way clearer then wich increases the positive chances

So I got blocked after #3.. Note this has worked with numerous other girls on pof...but this one blocked me after using line#3: "You know this doesn't have to get bitter. Remember our pillow fights right before the great sex and the romantic dinners I would make you? "

Our convo went something like

me: I sent #1
her: hmm how come i dont recall this..
me: how come you dont recall what? The fact that you had a fling with our pool boy pablo? Remember? That is the reason why we are in the process of getting divorced..
her: Well i like to drink by the pool and I black out often after drinking so I dont recall any flings with pablo...
Me: look at you trying to use the "Im so drunk I blacked out and can't remeber what I did" routine. Thats not going to work with me.. You know what, lets put all this behind us, this doesn't have to get bitter... Remember our pillow fights right before the great sex and the romantic dinners I would make you?

She Blocked me right after that... Since she blocked me could she have sent something to pof about me being inappropriate bringing up sex or something? I was just trying to be playful but she blocked me... Should I be worried about pof reprimanding me for saying "Remember our pillow fights right before the great sex and the romantic dinners I would make you?"

Or am I making a big deal out of nothing?

I wouldn't worry, its not like you've said anything explicit. I would agree though that there are a fair contingent who will freak out at #3... Chances are you don't want to know them anyway!

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I've had a reasonable amount of success with the following opener adapted from Kisser's Bank Heist routine. It's attraction material but it seems to work well and chicks really seem to dig the role-play aspect. Perhaps with some work the community could flesh this out into a full blown online routine?

This can be used as an opener, attraction material, or if you run out of things to say or she's giving you short replies and making value elicitation difficult.
______ & _______ should be two of her Interests from her profile, obviously those which cost money and make her feel good. If she has no interests listed, say something generic like 'nights out & shopping trips'.

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Chatting to a HB8 running a modified version of this, got to the "I don't think we could ever reconcile" stage and she responded with "ok guess this is good bye then" - I don't think she's too serious as she's said in a joking way that she's not easy previously.

Basically need a good reply to "ok guess this is good bye then"

I just got a friend request on Facebook from some chick (HB5) that I talked to today who works as a secretary assistant in the department of my major at college. Shall I try this routine on her? Hmmm.

Tried this out for the very first time tonight. Just #closed a HB7. I also tried this routine on a HB8 and got "I must say this is the most unique approach i've gotten from anybody" then the HB8 stopped responding. Here is what was said between the HB7 and I:

Me: After a rigorously brief overview of your profile, I wanted to let you know I have already married and divorced you in my mind.

Thanks for all the wonderful imaginary memories... you will always have a special place in my heart.

your ex-hubby,

Nicholas

ps. You can keep the house in Hawaii but, I am going to need half our money according to our prenup.

HB7:: umm ok? haha

Me: Here I am getting the impression that you have a sense of humor and the response I get to my hilarious message is 3 words long. For the record, we divorced because of your fling with the pool boy Pablo, remember?

HB7:: ive told u this a million times. u were never around and when u were, u werent fulfilling my needs so what else was i supposed to do? pablo and i connected, he was there for me when u werent. maybe if u had been around more and had been a better husband, this never would have happened. im just sayin...

Me: As far as Pablo goes, I had a fling with your sister right before the wedding while you were taking soooooo long to get ready.

You know this doesn't have to get bitter. Remember our pillow fights right before the great sex and the romantic dinners I would make you?

HB7:: well now im really pissed. u gave me soooo much shit for the pablo thing when u did the same exact thing! plus it was on our wedding day, that makes it so much worse!

and yes this does have to get bitter. now, everytime i think of all the good memories we had, ill think of u and my sister. ugh its sick, i cant believe u would do that to me. me and my sister were best friends and now u ruined our relationship.

Me: Clearly you don't have the best of all memories. Your sister died 4 years ago.

Geez, we seem to get a long so well now that all that's over. Ever consider giving it another shot? I mean we were pretty good together.

HB7:: i just havent had closure with the death yet...i still cant believe shes gone

ugh well even though u kinda suck as a husband sometimes i guess we could give it another try...it couldnt hurt. i cant believe im saying this right now

Me: Well thanks for the honesty. I wont be so quick to judge this time.

So what have you been up to since Pablo?
Anything fun happening in our life? Causing any trouble?

HB7:: ive had a few flings, nothing serious. i just cant seem to connect with anyone else. it sucks cuz it gets lonely after awhile. im glad u let me keep the dog, shes the only company i have...

i got a big promotion at work so thats good. other than that pretty much everything else has been the same. i go out to the bars every once in awhile but nothing too crazy.

Me: I didn't let you keep Lassie. That was OUR dog, and you won her in the settlement. I would like to see her again at some point.

Sounds like you've been busy. That's good but, ya gotta get out and have a little fun every once in a while. What do you like to do Ms...... wait a minute what was your name again? hahaha

HB7:: your welcome to come see her anytime you want. she might not remember you, its been awhile.

how the fuck can u not remember ur wifes name and what she likes to do??? u always were dumb, so im not really THAT surprised. but anyway, my names [her name]. hmm i like reading, sleeping, partying, shopping, traveling...u know, all the stuff that we used to do together....

Me: Ah yes, of course. I've basically been doing the same. Reading. Sleeping. Partying. You know. Shopping. Traveling. And watching Sex and the City ALL DAY!

Ok, I made that last part up. lol

You are sooo cute.. but I dont think we could ever reconcile the divorce - we are just too similar.. we would fight and throw things and have incredible make up sex all over the place and fight more then sex fight sex fight.. too much drama and intense feelings for me!

HB7:: ok fine, whatever u say. but ur the one who said we should give it another chance! ur really confusing me...! i thought we could maybe try again to make it work but its all up to u now.

Me: Well I suppose you're right. It is worth the effort and I do want to be together. I'll promise not to break your heart if you promise to lose Pablo's number. lol

Speaking of numbers... I seemed to have lost yours in all the messy divorce stuff. Why don't you send it to me again and we can begin rebuilding. This time it'll be fun, exciting and full of adventure!

Plus in the mean time we get to be text buddies!
Whatdya say Cuddle Bunny?

-Nicholas

HB7:: okayy fair enough. im glad u finally came to ur senses. my number is XXXXXXXXXX

We just spent the last 2 hours or so texting and making plans about how we are going to reunite as long lost lovers and how it is going to be different this time around. I can't find any ways to neg her based on what we are saying. It's mostly just cutesy things being said about our imaginary relationship, and she is being receptive to it, so it is working. This rules! Not to mention it's funny as shit. We were replying to each other's texts usually right away, but sometimes waiting up to a half hour. I finally just stopped texting her, because it's late at night and i'm tired, so i'll text her again in the morning. I also waited because I couldn't think of the next thing to say, so instead of saying something dumb, I figured I'd wait til morning when I'd be in a new mindset, and it also shows that I am not needy. I just hope she is receptive in the morning as well. What do you guys think about waiting until morning to send the next text? I still have to figure out a way to set up a date to see her in person. My text game sucks. I guess I'm on my own for the rest of it. Any helpful insight? lol