Been watching Johnny Soporno Seductive Reasoning videos (free on web). He has hit on something really profound. Its subtle so you don't realize how powerful it is.

Anyhow, so I stayed overnight at this chick's place courtesy of couchsurfing.org. She's probably an HB 8. I entertained her friend and after she left, analyzed her handwriting. She immediately got excited when I asked her if she wanted me to do it. I have about 20 minutes knowledge of reading a handwriting book, nevertheless I did it with some degree of success.

MY friend was also traveling with me so she retired that evening with no more action. She invited me rock climbing and a few weeks later we had a good time doing that. I met her buff guy friends. I am like 120 lbs and these guys were 160 to 180 in awesome shape. And that day I looked like crap from not enough sleep and poor eating. I was thinking no way this chick would want to be more than friends with me....

More than a month went by and I forgot about her while pursuing other chicks.

But she had given me enough signals since I knew her to keep me guessing. So I decided to pull a Johhny Soporno on her. I asked her if she was polyamorous in an email:

Email:
are you polyamorous by chance? Or what is your take on it? I hope it doesn't make you uncomfortable for me to ask. I talk to a lot of chicks about this sort of thing. And I'm not really talking mainly about sex. Its more about the idea that people care about each other and are lifelong friends. I just think most couples get too focused on each other. And when that falls apart...its like they have nothing

I must confess that I had stumbled onto her profile on an online dating site and knew that she was Bisexual. obviously some girls wouldn't even know what polyamorous means.

Anyhow she responded very positively and told me about a book on poly she was reading, and told me about her previous relationship. We sent a few emails talking about the hard work of trying not to possess another person in a monogamous relationship. Then I sent:

ha! (girl's name) thats one of the reasons I like you. Theres no way a climber chick would be afraid of hard work! and being true means you don't have to play games all the time.Because you are learning about what you really want... So if a massage ever interests you, just let me know. Forget the linear path, life moves in circles

note: I intentionally used run on sentences and non perfect composition for this last email to make it seem more casual and convey that I don't put a lot of care into what happens next.

Next day she told me she loves massages and had free time during the week. I made the mistake of calling her and trying to drop in. But that was only because I happened to really be on an errand in her neighborhood. She didn't answer but emailed me the next day about how she was staying at a friend's and didn't have her phone with her. Which brings me to this point: some women prefer not to talk on the phone even if they intend to sleep with you. Perhaps they like the discretion of written text because its like a fantasy. Whereas a phone call is like a reality check. Especially since most men probably don't fulfill women's fantasies at all.

We schedule an evening a few days later. I tell her to make sure to have good candles and I want it lit up like a cathedral.

When I get there I bring in this really cool pen I bought for myself. I do sandwich delivery and want a nice pen so customers can have a little fun while signing the credit slip (and maybe not worry about giving me that bigger tip). Whereas an AFC might bring her a gift, I was showing off this gift I had bought my one true love (myself).

So we are chilling on the couch and then I ask her if she likes hand massages. We get into massage for a few minutes. She offers to massage me and asks if I want to lay down on the couch. I am thinking "where are the candles, where is the bed, we both know why I am here". So I ask if we can move to a bed, this couch is not comfortable (it wasn't). Which proves a few things 1. girls will shit test you repeatedly. 2. they want it to just "happen". If I request the bed then its my fault. She's not naughty, I am . Well I am a dude so I will take the blame.

Once we got to the bedroom it was much, much better. Which proves that you just have to keep asking for what you want, or demanding it. The AFC stays on the couch hoping that she will initiate a new setting. The alpha doesn't have time for it. She lights candles, massage ensues. Does she like butt massage? clothes eventually come off. Even once the clothes are off I keep things fun, make jokes, tell her what to do, "do you like being told what to do? Up to a point, right??" She gives me a mischievous grin...

Its been over a week since that night. I am not begging to see her again, though I am certainly starting to make it clear that it would be fun. I am not changing my attitude one bit. I am not all of the sudden AFC. I am still cocky funny. I am still not caring that much what happens next. In fact, I am mostly telling her about all the fun things I have been getting into.

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Awesome! Really brill!

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Sweet story! I'm 29, my first gf who cured my AFC(normally not possible, she was an angel) when I was 15, shoved Free Love down my throat. She had lived for a year in Sweden and claimed that the understanding amongst girls is:
You have a boyfriend, 4 or 5 fuck friends, anything more and you're a SLUT!!
Hahaha.


Meeting someone who also is into free love is like two keys to the city:
1. Se's not 'taken'
2. Being polyamorous is such a unique, mostly esoteric lifestyle, that the two of you now have MUCH in common and have MUCH to discuss.

Have you read Stranger In a Strange Land?

From the book:

I actually met a girl once, and when we quickly discovered that we were both fans of the book, we had our water ritual and had sex the next day.


One issue I have is with the word Polyamory. I'd say for every person that identifies with this word there are 5 people that practice the same thing, but prefer not to be part of a political-ish movement.

Love the whole story but especially the last line. So true.

Sorry, decided to pull a teenage girl move there. Its pretty cool when you use a technique from a guru PUA and he happens onto your post and comments... Proves just how small the community can still be sometimes. We got to spread the good word boys.

Was at a bar the other night. Realized that my wingman knew almost nothing about talking to chicks. In fact felt that either it just happened that a girl wanted you or else it would be an enormous amount of trouble to find those girls you could convince to sleep with you. I told him that girls want it, but their anti slut reasoning mechanisms ingrained from society are much stronger than ours.

Anyhow, what is so great about being polyamorous is that it does wonders for your self esteem. On top of just making sense from a biological point of view in that a lot of people just like to have several regular sex partners and maybe additional random ones thrown in. But having a chick that I know loves me even though we are not commited to each other.... gives so much confidence at bars, etc. And girls can pick up on that. You are a builder of love networks! So many relationships are just demolition of expectation, and everyone feels burned in the end.

Thanks for the replies guys. Haven't read stranger in a strange land. I am looking for a good book to read so I might take it up. As for sweden, I actually have a friend lived in norway where the situation is similar. Super hot chicks and they are very comfortable with casual sex. I actually have been toying with the idea of moving there ( I love europe) since I have been so sick of the dating game here. But now that I see the gears behind the motivations of women and men.... its kindof starting to be fun here in the states.

Once you get over that hump and start to really be able to say whatever you want to people.... I was working two 3 girl sets at a bar the other night. This hot probably undersexed chick was talking to her friends. And I overheard her say "these two dudes at another table left and they probably thought I was weird if they heard my conversation". At that point I blurted out "I DON'T think you are weird" from about 10 feet away. I thought it was funny that I overheard her talking about being overheard! She seemed a little turned on by my boldness and it opened some dialogue. And then the chick to my right who I had been talking to got more turned on because she saw me open a set like that. But I didn't give a crap whether I crashed and burned because I do it 20 times a night and have plenty of chicks entertained and to talk to. I can open a set pretty much anytime anywhere. A line I started using a lot to open larger sets, especially if they are sitting at a table in the corner: "Is this where the cool kids hang out?" Instant regression, suddenly we are all kids on the playground back when you would go up to anyone and say whatever you wanted. Always get a great response from that line. They say "ha ha, yeah" Follow it up with "thought so" and then maybe do some observation on the place or the weather. Or comment on them "like that hair, that's pretty damn cool" suddenly you have befriended and disarmed.... I generally try to avoid introductions. The furthest I will go is to say "I am from Atlanta" as fluff talk. I actually get annoyed sometimes when people give me their name, even girls. It usually means they like you, and it has to happen at some point to build comfort. But I like being in that zone where we can be comfortably chatting and having fun together even though you met me 10 seconds ago. I find that name giving kills my buzz and it seems like a business meeting.

Anyhow, Johhny helped by reinforcing what I already knew in my inner game: I just want to be liked by people for myself, and other people want to be liked for themselves too. And all the fashionable attitudes are just a posture to cover up the little kid inside who still feels insecure. I don't care if you are a harley rider, a frat jerk, or a tight panted emo kid.

If someone rejects you its often just out of fear of being rejected by others if their status is downgraded. But once you realize that you are on a secret mission to create the ultimate super human... you realize that the only one who can really decide your status is yourself. Then conversation with other is so easy. You are in complete control of your status, whereas they are still in fear of what their insulated group of friends thinks of them. And you are just there to liberate them into enjoying life like a kid again....

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Preach on brotha!

So true.

Being involved with multiple girls boosts my self-esteem, obviously, but also a BIG boost is overcoming jealousy of other guys. Compersion.
It proves and at the same time projects confidence. Like when I say something like "Hey, for all I know you spend every night at a different dude's place, none of my business!"

It means I'm so aware of my own value as a lover, that it doesn't even cross my mind that she might be with someone else, and then not want me anymore; Of COURSE she'll come back to me.

Actual compersion felt in a threesome, makes my self-esteem invincible from there on forth.