I thought it was pretty great. Lost focus around the middle but I feel refreshed. Has anyone else here attempted it? What was your results with it?

Great CD. Wish I could do it more often.
I think you are suppose to lose focus around the middle, because I do as well. The weird thing is that sometimes you will be listening to it and hear parts that you do not remember being in there before, like you are hearing parts for the first time. I think it has something to do with the hypnotic suggestions.

Hi guys,

As there are more and more individuals claiming to be experts in various "dark" fields such as hypnosis and nlp, it is important to take extra care of consuming the products or believing in the beliefs that are voodoo and witchcraft. And wich they sell you.

Here is what every one selling hypnosis or nlp product is hiding or blind to :

Hypnosis is a type of soothsaying, in which a hypnotist seeks the help of a Jinn [1] and makes him overpower a hypnotized person and talk through him. The Jinn gives the hypnotized person power to do certain actions, if he agrees to obey the hypnotist and is truthful with him in return for mutual benefits.

According, the Jinn causes the hypnotized person to obey the hypnotist in any actions or to give any information asked from him, if it is being honest with the hypnotist. It is therefore not permissible to utilize hypnosis or to use it to find a stolen or lost object, to cure a sick person, or to do anything through a hypnotized person.

In fact, this is Shirk [2], due to what was previously mentioned and because it entails resorting to other than Allah in matters that are beyond those ordinarily permitted by Allah for His Creation.


[1]Jinn (Arabic: جن jinn, singular جني jinnī; variant spelling djinn) or genies are supernatural creatures in Arab folklore and Islamic teachings which occupy a parallel world to that of mankind. Together, jinn, humans and angels make up the three sentient creations of Allah. According to the Qur’ān, there are two creations that have free will[citation needed]: humans and jinn. Religious sources say barely anything about them; however, the Qur’an mentions that jinn are made of smokeless flame or "the fire of a scorching wind". Like human beings, the jinn can also be good, evil, or neutrally benevolent.
The jinn are mentioned frequently in the Qur’an, and there is a surah entitled Sūrat al-Jinn in the Quran.



[2] Shirk : In Islam, shirk (Arabic: شرك‎ širk) is the sin of idolatry or polytheism, i.e. the deification or worship of anyone or anything other than the singular God, or more literally the establishment of "partners" placed beside God. It is the vice that is opposed to the virtue of tawhid (monotheism).
Within Islam, shirk is an unforgivable crime; God may forgive any sin except for committing shirk.

Religious babble without evidence. Can you back this up?

I could probably debate this for hours vs the id and superego, right?

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It's not religious babble. I'm not selling anything...

sure you can debate hours and hours but first point, it's more simple than you think.
second point, that is the field of the invisible (world) where no one can come up with details so we better stick to the little we know and avoid consuming products or believing in beliefs provided by individuals who don't really know what they're doing.

Keep it simple. You don't need to turn into a monster or a possessed guy to enjoy the company of a wife.

Seriously, doing hypnosis or nlp to get what ? Confidence ?
The fact that you require that type of magic is a sign that you will never have confidence nor dignity.

I agree with everything from this second post.

Disarm successful.

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Hang on a second Mikki what your saying is that Hypnosis is magic aided by Jinn..

Firstly your wrong its not magic.

Hypnosis is a process of making a person feel relaxed so they can use hypnosis to get past there own issues its got nothing to with magic. People tend to lack confidence because of deep seated personal issues and mental blocks they have created normally through some past experiences.

Moreover your spouting religion in a forum which is dedicated to the seduction of women and male promiscuity which as far as I'm aware is against Islamic belief anyway.

Agreed. I've actually seen a hypnotist a couple of times. Helped me a lot with feeling more relaxed all the time.

I don't see what's wrong with being hypnotized to be relaxed or confident? I mean, hypnosis only works as much as you let it. It requires your full cooperation, and will only work if you let it.

I'd like to jump back in here. I think I was hasty in my agreement above and certainly overlooked the emphasis on magic. Probably because I thought this was religious talk. I guess it still is somewhat.

I think that it can be seen through history that many people cannot understand the human mind and write off what they cannot see as magic or as divine

It's possible to undergo major surgery using hypnosis and to me this just demonstrates the power of the human brain. Much of which is not yet understood and many theories lack much validity.

I don't know much about the process of hypnosis but it is ignorant to discard such processes as magic. I also don't know much about the process of dreaming and could see where similar accusations could be made. I'd call it a defensive tactic to do so.

I suppose beliefs are reversed on the other side, but I struggle to fit that into my logic.

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lol hypnosis isn't magic. It's just suggestions repeated in a number of different fashions to get the subconscious to bring it the the foreground (ie your thinking mind).

Where the fuck did all that "magic" stuff come from ?


It's nothing magical about it.
You suppress a persons cogitation through a guided meditation of sorts.
It is much the same you do when you read a good book, you immerse within an experience which may teach you something, while suspending your conscious thoughts.

If you're a good hypnotist, you're good at telling stories that people can loose themselves in.

That is all.


(Of course, knowing how people are affected by stories and how to employ the emotional states/feelings that a person go through while you are talking to them will help you emphasize different parts of the learning, and thus give a more specific/tailored experience. So it's more like a book that evolves and adapts to you in order to guide you through an experience which is more likely to leave you with a feeling of well-being and a motivation to approach goals in your life that you may have had problems motivating yourself to go for.)

Magic is always aid by Jinn(s).
I'm not talking about tricks and optical illusions.
I'm refering to the use of the invisible world, Jinns (who have free will like humans), to reach an outcome. That's what magic is.
That kind of interaction is forbidden. The invisible world is the invisible world. We shouldn't care about it more than that.
About jinns and free will : the jinns who chose to do evil are called demons.

For example, people would seek aid from a Jinn, who decided to do an evil act, for separating a husband from his wife.
Once the deal is done between the sorcerer and the jinn, the jinn, as part of the invisible world, will go and inspire bad feelings, sensations of hatred toward the other half, over nothing.
So anytime the two will be around each others it will break into disputes.
Also, one won't bear standing around the other.
Or, he or she, won't tolerate being touched.

As blood runs in your veins, jinns have the ability to run in your body in the same fashion. They inspire you sometimes with bad ideas other times with gut feelings.
They can even fool you into loving someone.

In the case of a possession, a jinn is not leaving your body and he managed to get the control of some of your functions.

For example, in the case of a separating magic, one of the member in the couple will feel strongly disgusted, will have an angrying inner monologue (you know, that inner voice that never turns off and sounds like it's autonomous), each time he or she will try to get closer, nice and gentle to the other.

what nlp/hypnosis is doing is providing the diversion of the consciousness (overloading or diverting it) for some illegal operation can be done in background. The extreme operation that can occur while being diverted by an nlp/hypnotic script is intrusion and possession of some fonction (by a malevolent jinn i.e a demon).
It could reach as far as a total possession in such case your whole person would be under control.

Seriously, why do you think they wanna acess memory ressources ?

I don't see the point in saying what i've just said in an islamic board or to other muslim brothers : i think they already know what i'm telling and i'm sure some of them can explain it to you better than i just did.

But you've just read pieces of informations you wouldn't be hearing or reading here in normal circumstances.
I'm here because magic is here.

I have a question for you guys.
There is a story related in the Holy Qur'an and maybe in the bible (didn't read it) that concern magic, the Prophet Moses, peace be upon him, the children of israel and that ressemble the nlp/hypnosis that is selled by gurus nowadays.

Do you know what this story is ?

lol this is so funny

I had weird hallucinations with this CD.
Like the part of the cave of chaos my mind interpreted the cave as my deep fears. Then Hypnotica suggests you to face it "Go for it".

I found it was a scary experience in the first time, then I think it helped me destroy my fears.

Pretty well made CD. Nice music too. Denver Clay rocks.

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'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

I checked this CD out a while back. I can't say for certain whether it 'works' or not but there was a recurring phrase in it that bothered me slightly......

"BY HYPNOTICA"
"BY THE SPHINX OF IMAGINATION"

....it just worried me that this could perhaps be a form of subconscious adverting and marketting of Hypnotica and his products.

Let's face it....it could easily be taken as:

"BUY HYPNOTICA"
"BUY THE SPHINX OF IMAGINATION"


Don't get me wrong - I'm a big fan of Eric Von Sydow (Hypnotica/Rasputin). He's very talented in the field of NLP. I'm just saying let's not forget that this is a product.....and products have to be sold.

(Hope I haven't waffled on too much)