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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:13 pm 
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Hi guys.
I'm starting this project just to see how far I can go with it.
The goal for this Saturday night is to do at least 5 Apocalypse Openers (AOs)

I've done AOs before but always bailed out after getting the "no".
But this time I plan to do it all the way and really try my best, and I'm opening this journal to keep myself motivated and hopefully inspire others.

For those of you who don't know how AO works, here is how:
PUA: Hey, what are you doing later?
HB: Blah Blah Blah
PUA: Do you want to come home with me?
HB: Blah blah blah (Usually a "No" in a shocked state)
PUA: Okay
...and from here if she still stays, transition into small talk to build comfort...

The key for AO to work is DELIVERY.
Making and keeping deep eye contact with her is essential.
Voice tonality and overall body language is also essential here, as the PUA must keep the frame of a strong dominant male.

(currently my voice sucks in public coz I get tensed up as the anxiety kicks in;my conversational skills suck as well; but i'll see how it goes. and hope for progress the more i practice this opener)

If done properly this opener will trigger a strong emotional response in her. A correct delivery would give her some sort of butterflies, after which only a lil' bit of comfort is needed and she's ready for an adventure.

Of course, to make it work, one must make a outstanding delivery for these few lines. You really gotta act as if you're a strong dominant male with the biggest balls in that venue. Not act as if, but actually BE the strong dominant male while you're doing the AO. After which you can roll back to normal.

It sounds simple and easy in theory, and for me personally this AO fits like a glove. Everything else not only that seems complicated, but also doesn't fit my personality. I'm a straight-to-the-point cut-the-bullshit type of guy. Pretending to be something that I'm not makes me feel like a clown and that fucks everything up.

For those who can act, good for you.
For me acting doesn't really work. So I must go for direct openers to make my intention clear; only after that I'll start to feel at home and then yes we can talk about bullshit topics. (if she is still there and didn't took off.)

This AO is obviously not for everyone as each person has a different personality. It may sound ridiculous to some, so if you don't see yourself doing it, then it's probably not cut for your style and you should look for other techniques that suits you better.

For some reason, for me, this AO seems the most appropriate place to start practicing PUA skills.

So that's it guys, enough with the introduction. I'll go out tonight and try the AO in a club environment. I plan not to get too drunk(that's big challenge for me lol) and I plan to start small, only doing 5 approaches.
If the HB doesn't eject herself, it's a good sign and she's a good subject to work on from there. Theoretically, my goal is to keep the conversation flowing for a little while and then lead her to another club with the final aim of taking her home same night.

I'll get back with a field report and I promise to tell the truth.


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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 11:17 am 
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Okay so I went out last night, although it was a crazy rain and normally I'd have been canceling all plans. I went out all by myself as I don't have a wing.
Got there early and it was not even half full. But as I sat there enjoying the music and my drink, the place slowly got crowded. It actually got so crowded that I couldn't find a decent spot where I could wait for my "prey". So I just sat at the bar with my drink on the bar, as there were people all around me like sardines.
All kinds of sets there, mixed sets and all-girl sets, but they all looked so fucking busy dancing and taking to eachother. I definitely picked a wrong club, I've seen better clubs(that are larger and girls transit the area more often, hence creating a good opportunity to deploy my AO -- ideally a lobby area or something where I can find a solo girl parked, waiting for friends or texting).

AO#1
As I sat at the bar, two drunk chicks come next to me to order drinks. The blond one closer to me, was so drunk that she turned to me with fake smile as the bartender tapped her shoulder to make her aware that her drinks are ready. Same shit three times in a row. I was just looking at her indifferently. Coz it was amusing :)
After she realized the female bartender is the one tapping her, she paid for the drinks and then as she was preparing/mixing them, I tapped her hand and asked "How's it going?". She was bothered and with a fake smile and no eye contact answered she's fine. I then asked what is she doing later. She shrugs, again with no eye contact and total disinterest, and then she tells something to her girl-friend. Mot probably reporting what i just asked her.
Throwing the punch-line was useless at this point. So I dropped it. They took off and disappeared into the crowd.
So this was basically a half attempt of the AO. But hey, with no eye contact AO is nothing but noise.

AO#2
After a while, as I was still there at the bar in the same place, enjoying the SPAM as I was feeling the alcohol making its effect, here comes this chick next to me to order drinks. She was tipsy as it was obvious in her eyes. But I liked her as she had the appearance of a nice-girl, which I like. (I don't dig the smart-ass aggressive type of females, no matter how hot).
I tap her and ask how's it going. She answers fine. Almost no eye contact.
I then ask her what is she doing later, and she looks into my eyes at this point (but I think I was way to serious and tensed up. I need to look more relaxed I guess) and she answers "around here..." while pointing at the crowd.
Do you want to come home with me? I asked. She didn't hear me and leaned in with her ear, so I repeated into her ear (which is definitely not ideal). Her answer was "no" but she was calm and minded her drink after I said "Okay". I then asked for her name, she told me her name, and when I told her my name she nodded her head and directed her attention to her drink. Which for me was a sign of disinterest so I didn't pursue it any further. She was there for like a minute more, then she grabbed her drink and vanished.
[I do plan to work on persistence but later as I get more advanced. For now as a newbie I'll only focus on those who show some kind of interest]
But anyway this was a full AO, even though the delivery sucked and the eye contact was very poor (basically no eye contact at the crucial moment of delivering the punch-line).

Although I did have the intention to do more of them AOs. I didn't. Because I couldn't find approachable sets.
As I was leaving, a bouncer was keep repeating to two drunk girls that they can't go back in(don't know the reason for that, nor do I care). I took the opportunity to invite them to an after-hours-party with me. But they both looked at me very confused like they don't know what's that they don't know what I'm talking about so I turned my back and walked away.

So yeah, I know my goal was to do 5 of them. I only did 2. But not because I chickened out, it's because I couldn't find good opportunities.

Having a precise plan really helped me. This time I didn't have no approach anxiety whatsoever. I didn't ask myself "what will I say next" not even for a second. I felt good. And this exercise is definitely a confidence-booster.

Also. Knowing that I have to fill this report made me more responsible and definitely helps to get over that "ah fuck it i'm not in the best mood today, i'll do it another time" mindset. I'd say it's a good push when you don't have a wing to push you.

Next time I need to find a larger club and position myself strategically.


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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:57 pm 
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It was er very nice and fun read, i hope u will try this opener some more nights, and if you do i wanna hear about it!

Goodluck!


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 5:56 pm 
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Hey man!

It's cool that you're trying the Apocalypse. I was thinking about trying it out too, but thus far I had zero success with direct game in general, so I didn't try it out yet.

Here's a few thoughts that popped into my mind while reading your report:

1) Don't go out specifically to use the AO, just go out to sarge in general and use the AO when the opportunity arises - but don't limit yourself to just that one tool only. As you surely noticed yourself, you might not have many opportunities to use it, and it's useless to wait for a "perfect set", as it might not appear at all.

2) Go and read 60 Years Of Challenge - his style is very straightforward and might be just what you're looking for. But, in my own humble opinion, even when going direct like that you should still try building some social proof first.

Anyway, it'd be cool if you tried the AO some more and shared the stories with us :)


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