I met this girl 5 weeks back in club, exchanged numbers. She called me week later to go out, we went out with my frds and her frds, but we ended up making out that night, and then for the next few days, we have been texting each other with a few flirts in between, but since she is in college and involved in different activities(i did cross check this info and she is not lieing), she is been always busy, so finally she asked me out this past friday for a dinner and movie date and i offered to make some dinner for her at home and watch movie later, but finally she called me an hour before the dinner, and cancels dinner because she had some college acitivity which came up and she cannot get out off, she offered to reschedule to make it upto me, so i ask her when and she says this new activity will keep her busy for next 2 weeks and she don't know yet when she can see me......I finally had to tell her that she can call me when she thinks she can really see me...and after that i didn't hear from her, its been 2 days...I m confused on what she wants? I don't know if she is really busy and i am just a last priority for her when nothing else is goin on in her life....Guys, plz suggest on what my next steps should be, i think i shud def. not call or text her until i hear from her, if i do hear from her, what shud my approach be?

Update: Didn't hear back yet? Anyone?

You shouldn't be checking up on the things she is telling you. Emphasis when you've just met them.

I see no problem with a text or phone call at this stage. Just tell her you know she has a lot distracting her from how much she misses you but her debt must be settled.

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Thanks! But how do I know if she is really missing me or maybe you mean just to txt her in a C&F way? Do you think it will work?

Ok I finally texted 3 days back, got a reply immediately, and after a few text exchanges, I reminded her that she owes me one, and she replied back saying "Yes", so my next text just to be a little C&F I said, "so where are you taking me on a date", after that I did not get a reply back....I tried to generally text over the next 2 days, also called today and left a voicemail.....but nothing.

Is it over? I know many of you may say that sarge and pick up other girls, but I really wanted to see where this goes, since i gennuinely liked this girl........

Any hope? be honest and brutal guys.....appreciate!

The less you care, the less you will care.

The less you will care, the more likely it is that she will stop flaking.

With flakes like these, the trick is to have 50 in the black book. They are SO unreliable that you have at best 1/10 the chance to even date them than you do with "normal" women.

Right now I just reinitiated contact with an insane flake from 5 years back. I'm not expecting ANYTHING out of her. I am actually expecting flaky behavior. But the last time I saw her I took her hair in my hand, tilted her head back and kissed her, and then ceased contact. I think that sort of thing works on their minds...

But the bottom line is I'd bet money that she will only flake and flake. I think women may feel that that's a way of letting the guy down easy. If only they knew.

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Thanks Spandrel. It makes sense but at the same time is there no way a PUA should be able to re-intiate a flaky contact and reestablish connection?
There should be something i can text or say which should trigger her to respond back.
For now I think I am going to take your advice and not care for the next 2 weeks and see how it feels. If I still have some feelings/interest, is a phone call ok at that point?

In the case of the one I mentioned, I am not expecting ANYTHING out of her. She's flakier than a dry croissant. With that type of woman, sure it can work, but you need large numbers of them in the book in order to have any statistical chance of success even of dates.

Really don't know why you're invested at all in this woman. Rather than bothering with this one stupid bint, go meet 50 more. Seriously, don't waste the time.

Sure, give her a voice mail 2 weeks from now. Because she's not going to answer the phone when you call. If you spend more than 30 seconds on her you are wasting your time.

I will say one thing-- I think the longer you wait the more likely it is that you will be able to reestablish communication. But again you shouldn't figure on caring much.
Who cares. You dated her twice. Forget her.

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Thanks for your inputs Spandrel, keep it coming.

A sudden twist, she just texted me (like mins ago), apologising and saying she had phone issues. So I called back, she did answer, had a brief 5 min conversation, she is going to be busy for next 2 weeks with exams, so i wished her good luck and said to text me when she feels she can see me.......

It seems like she wants to see me again. I am just going to lay low, until she intiates contact again. What do you guys think?

I think that is almost always a good plan.

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lol i dont think she's gonna call.

youve been acting too wussy and nice.

chicks dont like nice guys.

and youre too available.

but maybe im wrong

Move on.. If she calls you back - great, but it does not seem as if she is really interested in meeting you, if she was, she would make it happen..
Just live your life and don't think about it.

Good luck

The fact that you're worried about how busy she is means that you're not busy. If you yourself had a bunch of things going on in your own life, then you wouldn't even worry about these things. She'd say "I can't see you for 2 weeks", and you'd respond with "oh, that's ok, I'm pretty busy this week anyways".

Ever been in a relationship where one person has a great deal more free time than the other? It's a recipe for disaster. The person with more free time gets bored and desires attention from the person with less free time. The person with less free time feels smothered. They don't want to spend all of their free time with you. It's a really bad situation and I've been on both sides of it. It's much better if there's some balance between the two of you, and women will subconciously look for this.

Not to mention, being busy will create a lot of value. Obviously, dating other women will keep you busy and not worrying about her, but there's other things you can do as well. Take a class, or dancing lessons, or start going to the gym, or taking yoga, or take up guitar. All of these things will do two things: occupy your time and increase your value with women. Most of them will also put you in situations where you are around women more often.

Anyways, this is just an affirmation of the previous "you are too available" post above. I just wanted to go into more detail and say why you are too available, and what you can do about it.

Nevermind that a women shouldn't be asking you out, but if that does happen, your response should never be "when are you available?" In any dating situation, you should be telling her when you are available, and seeing how her schedule matches that. If you're worried about your busy schedule and hers meaning you'll never get to see each other, don't. For one, your busy schedule will put you around attractive woman all the time and you'll find yourself thinking about her less. For another, you'd be suprised at how available she'll make herself once she realizes how available you are not. Women are funny that way. Actually, people are funny that way. Everyone likes a challenge. Don't be too easy. Be a challenge.