So ive been out of the pick up game for about a year now... bc i met a girl and married her (first mistake). so we moved intogether and things got rocky. now we are on the verge of divorce bc now she sees the "REAL" me and ive been trying to save our marraige by using pickup but nothing seems to be working maybe bc i havent had much practice but if you could please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! btw shes prego with my kid...

I feel like you're joking. I hope you're joking. With every fiber of my being, I pray to the god that I don't even believe in that you're joking.

^^^Ignore^^^

Madhatter, I can give you all sorts of tips to calm down, relax into the relationship, open the lines of communication maturely with your wife, and get yourself out of the mindset that you call the "REAL" you... but you need to provide some details about the relationship. What has happened? What is this thing you call the "REAL" you? What pick-up methods are you using?

(BTW, generally speaking pick-up methods backfire in relationships. You'll see why if you can explain yourself better, but get ready to drop those out of your repertoire if you are trying to save this marriage)

Also, none (or at least very, very few) of us are professional counselors, so you may look into professional services if what we suggest doesn't help. Still, give me some details and I'll do my best.

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Have fun getting trolled. Seriously, re-read his post, please.

It is not true that only one form of "advice" is legitimate and all the rest are not and should be ignored. This is a close-minded response which I have witnessed repeatedly. It is best for posters to say what they wish to say, WHILE allowing others to say what they wish to say.

Not everyone's life experiences are the same, nor are their surroundings and situations, therefore it stands to reason that not all advice will be the same nor will it be delivered with the same tone.

Let us not be too quick to say "ignore" others or attempt to "discredit" their words. Let us instead realize that, for the most part, people are here to offer genuine advice - even if that advice takes several forms: long dissertations, lovey-dovey posts, extreme (and obvious) sarcasm, bitter reactions, or any other form.

It is foolish and unwise to assume that "our advice" and "our advice only" is legitimate and worthy of reading.

Wisdom can be gleaned from even the most offensive or disturbing of posts, if for no other reason than it gives a look inside the mind of someone else who feels as though they have walked a mile in our shoes.

That is my two cents.

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

the "real" me is a relaxed person who just likes to chill and work out and just have fun and she doesnt realize that... I have always been a sweet person and shes saying its tooo much so as soon as i stop she says im a dick... like all sorts of lines... she also says that she isnt "in love with me" anymore... but she still loves me... its a fucked up situation in its entirity...

This is what happens every time that we "act" like somebody that we are not. That is why you have to live the life to emulate the life. Otherwise, eventually your incongruency will shine through and it alarm her. Every. Time.

Think about it...

To You: you "stepped up your game" and acted in certain (premeditated) ways, such as gaming, negging, being unavailable, whatever, all of the typical stuff that WE KNOW builds attraction.

To Her: you "became a different person".

That's bad. Real bad.

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

Mack, I agree completely. However, I take offense to posts that lack any value whatsoever. What is it about Snarg's post that provided anything useful? There was no advice there.

Snarg, I am trying to provide advice to someone who needs it. This is the relationship section, his post is about a relationship in trouble--who are you to raise yourself above him and make sarcastic comments about the state of his life? Why make a joke out of it when you can help, or not comment at all?

Anyway.
Madhatter... you're in pretty deep here. This is part of the problem with "becoming" a pick up artist to get a girl, because you have to keep acting.

Now, if your pick up game was the complete opposite of your personality, you might be in trouble. But if your game was just a few routines and a desire to keep things interesting a fresh, you can keep being that exciting, fresh guy without compromising your real personality. What was it that you did that attracted her in the first place? Spontaneous dates? Good sense of humor? I find it hard to believe that you got a girl to marry you based solely on synthetic game.

Do you guys do things together? Hang out? Do you each have your own friends and social lives? Can you spend a day apart without freaking out? Or is one of you super clingy?

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

so i messaged her and was like wheres my knife punk... and we hung out a couple times chilled... then i made her lie down in a parking lot with me at night and look at the starts... and we argued over which constalation was the big dipper... then i would neg her about being bossy and stuff like that... and we ended up bangin and stuff... one thing led to another and i thought i was being the real me after i calmed down... but she fell and fell hard... i commited by buying a plane ticket 6 months out to come and see her... and we had no problems while we were apart the trouble started when we moved intogether ....

Drop the pua bullshit, and let the marbles fall where they may, you don't want to live a lie, and keep reaching for something you aren't

Really? Noone is even gonna touch the fact that he married a girl within a years time and got her pregnant?.... Maybe she's rethinking this because she's in alot deeper than she wants to be? Hmm?

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A Tru nigga

Quite frankly the biggest problem with the arts is that it's a powerful tool.
If you've read The Game you'll know the problem, the social robots.
What you did comes down to being a social robot, being someone you're not. A good pickup artist uses his own style and his own confidence to prevent shit like this from happening.

Enough with the judging, can't undo what's done. My advice? Let it end. You can't save it anymore, you can't stay together (It's not for the sake of the kid, it's detrimental to it) and try to get an abortion.

Also condoms kid, ever heard of 'em?

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