basically saw chick at a bar that i'd briefly known in college( we have alot of mutual friends), never more than just meeting her and saying hi at parties, etc. anyway we talked for awhile, at end of night she invited me to "sleep in her bed b/c her house was closer to bar" i said sure whatever.
was already annihilated as i had been out with my buddies prior to seeing her. she wanted to take more shots as we were leaving and i figured i couldn't back down. problem was i was way too drunk to try and fuck her by the time we got to her place and I basically just passed out(although she said i didnt seem that drunk the next day).

next day she drove me home and on way asked "if i've ever had sex with a chick i just met at a bar"? i said "of course, hasent everyone?". she was like "i haven't" and was like "Bulllllshit". We then just talked about random shit, and never said anything else about it.

we hung out a couple more times, but since i didn't make move the 1st time i think i'm basically friend zoned, and there seems to be an awkward sexual tension. she actually told me the last time we hung out that she was "glad i didnt try to fuk her the first time when she invited me over"and then told me how she had this other dude over the other night and made him sleep on the floor after he tried to hook up with her. i just kinda laughed and sidestepped and changed the subject, and after that didn't really talk to her/text her anymore. it'd been about 2 weeks and she texted me

her: hi friend!
me: hi, whats up?
her: i just haven't seen u in forever! We need to do shit! such as get drinks and sushi
me: im down to do shit
her: cool

and that was it. been 2 days and havent talked to her. she's obv waiting for me to initiate but when/if i do, how can i get out of Fzone. just pretend its the first time again and try to kino escalate?

to open you with that seems like she is emphasising something? i think it roughly translates to:

Hi, I've given you hints that I wanted you inside me. Can you please stop being a pussy or at least get drunk with me so I can try again.

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Thenry, I've been in the friend zone before. Twice, as I remember it. Infamous does have a point. However you have to ask yourself what you want from this girl first and foremost. Sex or relationship? Its either of the two because unless you are a gay man what else can you possibly want from a woman? HAHA! And unless she is a seriously loose girl she will want some sort of relationship before having sex with you. Also if you are considering both keep in mind that having sex with a girl will not automatically mean she wants to be your gf. So just narrow it down. If it is a relationship you want...push pull, freeze her randomly, make her laugh, kino naturally, look at her in the eyes, shut up and listen to her words, watch her facial movements and her expressions, watch her body language and most of all be patient but keep gaming her. Also don't look at being in the fz as a handicap. You are already inside her mind as a friend. Work that angle. Use her desire for your friendship as a key into her thoughts and insecurities. Keep this in your mind: She may see you as just her friend but that doesn't mean the game stops when she wants it to stop. There is no fz. Stick to the game and you'll begin to see the fz wall melting. When it does you will be in prime position to strike the heart. Good luck.

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Wow, you haven't even evolved into having the ability to be actual friends with women? Why? The best wings are women. I have a ton of female friends, some I'm glad we are friends others more then friends wouldn't be a bad thing from my perspective. Women aren't just mates, change this outlook immediately. How's this when I walk into a bar or venue I'll hug 3-4 girls, how do you think that looks? It looks like lots of women appreciate me on some level. I took a girl to a concert last week, when we went she seen so many girls hugging me, some attracted, some not. Regardless it showed a serious presence. A great social proof and she was very impressed.

Having lots of girl friends is awesome because if your a cool cat, they sale you. You don't go make them attracted to you, oh this is Poetic he's one of the coolest cats I know, your status or value or however you put it is raised. When women endorse you, it will show. Having lots of women friends is such a huge tool in pick up(just life) it makes me absolutely distraught when guys talk bad about befriending women. Women always have women friends, so what if she isn't the "target". Perhaps she introduces you to a gorgeous women, or perhaps she hooks you up in some way with food, entrance, booze, etc. Build relationships and you will get a lot further in life then burning bridges because they aren't sexually related. I told a friend this too, it completely changed his outlook. There are tons more reasons to have women as friends and I'm giving the most "using" concepts.

Why would a women with a healthy outlook on sex (seeing sex as it is) be "loose"? There is a lot of chauvinistic in there that makes pick up look bad, I'd suggest you change your outlook a bit. A women who likes sex and treats it as an activity is not "loose", she gives sex the proper value and activity used for not only reproduction but also recreation.

Don't make such terrible statements it really advertises badly to newer folks in the pick up community.

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