EDIT: New update from this old story now in a new post by me in the thread.

So here's the quick back story. 2 HB7s come visit my friend and we all end up going to a party. I'm flirting with both and getting good responses from both. At the end of the night we head back to my apartment and we all 4 of us fall asleep on the same couch.

A little after we fall asleep me and HB7 wake up for a second and I put my arm around her, pull her closer and she lies like for pretty much the whole night. I took this and the fact that I kept making her laugh as positive signs to her liking me.

So here's what happened last night: I just happened to have a second ticket to a concert and I invited her and we went. We both had a great time at the show and at a really late dinner afterwards. There was some kino at the show but not really at dinner. I kept her laughing and we had a lot in common and a lot to talk about. As I was dropping her off I decided that I should go for a kiss so I did. I put my arm around her back but as I went in I got a cheek turn so it was like a hug with a kiss on the cheek.


I'm pretty sure this is not a good sign for this to go anywhere. Is this correct? Should I try something next time I see her or should I just stop trying?

I'm really new to this so I'm still working on negging, opening, etc. and I will keep trying with new girls regardless of if I have a chance with this one or not. But I would like to know if I should continue trying or just let us be friends.


UPDATE: Girl talked to her friend and said that the goodbye was "weird" but would not go into details.

sounds like u werent able to keep the kino and attraction keep building

u had it going well after the night sleeping with ur arm around her

but druing the concert and during/after dinner u NEED to keep kino going

the goodbye kiss always has a higher chance to be akward - if it was me i would have worked in a kiss b4 saying goodbye at the end of the night

so now she thinks ur goodbye was weird - that sucks - huge DLV
but u can make up for it
if u like this girl - dont just "stay friends" f-that
go for it
u can do this - but u need to play it ULTRA cool next time ur with her

next time ur with her - only talk about the good parts of ur day 2
how tight was that concert etc.
and have her lose focus on the AFC kiss close

rebuild ur attraction with her - get her to the point of the DDBL again before going for another k-close

like u mentioned - work on ur negs - she knows shes the prize now - u need to flip it and reverse it

also fyi - dont talk to her friends about ur dates etc. guaranteed the friend told her u asked or how u reacted etc. girls tell eachother everything - worse than us on this sit

u need play it chill and not act like the f'd up k-close was big deal
her loss dude

cheers

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IMO sounds like your in the friend zone but you do have the ability to leave it.

You say you always keeped her laughing, this does not mean she is into you. This means that your are entertaining her, if you entertain her for to long then you just become a entertainer.

Entertainers only get kisses from the cheek.

cat string theory/push-pull


you've been LJBF I think

Yeah you guys are definitely right. I needed to neg more and I didn't keep up the kino even close to as much as I should have.

I would agree that I'm probably in the LJBF zone but I also agree I could possibly get out of it and will try what you guys suggested next time I meet up with her.

Also, as clarification, I haven't talked to any of her friends about the night. That information was relayed from one of my friends who is friends with her best friend. I know that asking about how they liked the night from friends just shows desperation so I would never do that.

Thanks for the advice guys and I'll fill you in with an update when it becomes available (probably a week or two).

Ok so here's the newest update.

After getting your guys' advice I decided that I really needed to up using string theory. I stopped talking to her online and after about a week she starts it up again and I can tell I'm making some progress so I invite her and her friend back up.

They showed up last night and things kind of just fell into place for me. I ran into a girl I know at our college sandwich shop and talked to her instead of the group I was in for a while. Then I kept getting calls from another friend (HB9) about going to her room for pre-game before we all headed to a party.

So we go to HB9 room and we all get pretty drunk and head to the party. I know pretty much everyone there so it was huge DHV. By this point I'm barely talking to my target at all, outside of the few chances she had given me to neg her during the night. As we are walking I up conversation and kino with her. When we get there we end up dancing for a while and sticking together and talking while my friend and her friend went off somewhere.

After the party we are all still too drunk to drive so we end up taking a wicked long walk back to my apartment. I start leading the group and just walking alone for some reason but it ended up working in my favor because my target eventually came to me, put her hand behind my back while I put mine over her back, and we walked and talked back to my place.

So her friend and my friend end up laying on the couch and I tell everyone I'm sleeping in my bed since it's so much more comfortable. I then take my target and say "Come on" and lead her in. She instantly goes to the position we laid in the previous time she slept at my apartment but this time I said "I want to kiss you really bad right now" and we start making out for probably an hour. She's a virgin and was pretty strict about just staying on kissing, which I understood and was fine with. About an hour before we all had to get up I wake up and kiss her and we start making out again.


So I didn't f-close (I was never expecting to) but I did get the result I wanted. Your guys' advice really helped me realize that I needed to up certain aspects of my game and reduce other aspects and I'm positive it helped get me out of LJBF.

Although I do have other dates lined up for the next week, I will admit I'm kind of suffering from one-itis. It's not just because of tonight it's because she's probably the most fun girl I've ever met (which is really saying something). So I have to ask...how should I play it from here? As I said I'm really new to this community and I kind of wish I had had more targets before this one to practice so any advice will certainly help me out.