You are so right. It is often faster and more reliable, however, it is also usually shamelessly devoid of integrity, honesty, or decency.

Men think first (logically) because we are trying to figure out how to do things "the right way" (the man's way, handshake seals the deal, our word is our bond, etc). Women usually don't worry about that, lol, they just worry about what is effective. Not what is effective AND right.

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I don't necessarily think this is true. Not all the time.

It could just be a random thing, though-- sometimes it works out to be decent, sometimes not, but always it is raw pragmatism based on resources.

The rationalization thing is even more frightening. They seem to be capable of rationalizing any decision.

I often think that women are basically completely inscrutable to men. The "what she thinks she wants, what she says she wants, and what she actually wants" thing is a huge part of it. I think that women are not always conscious at all of why they make the decisions they do.

I was just privy to a display of extreme, insane irrationality and pragmatism. I was the instigator, sort of. My mind is blown yet again, to such an extent that I'm still sort of reeling at the whole thing. And I am JADED.

Seriously, I think they don't have any rational clue what they're doing 90% of the time.

This is why I think it's so important to use techniques that cut through bullshit and are based on how YOU feel, and not on weird convoluted attempts to understand why the woman is behaving in some weird, bizarre way. They are inscrutability within inscrutability.

How do you like this for a proverb: "When in Doubt, Freeze Her Out."

I'm seriously sick and tired of dealing with them. I've seen enough greasy cloacas to last a lifetime and I'm weary of all the incessant bullshit.

Course I'm working on two new ones.

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I'm basically agreeing with you, we are just saying it two different ways.

They say that men are "logical" thinkers.

They also say that women are "emotional" thinkers.

I think men are "logical" thinkers because we try to calculate two things:
- what will work (be effective)
- what will not diminish our honor as a man (this is the tricky part)

I think women are "emotional" thinkers because all they have to calculate is:
- what will work (be effective) ... pragmatism as you say

When someone is unencumbered by "honor" or "character", they are free to choose whatever path makes them "feel" better (aka- emotional decisions, not logical). Rationalization is just the next logical step. Since in and of itself, rationalization is also a very dishonest move.

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Ya, I know.

They're just so goddamn strange and bizarre. It's like their entire personality and "rational" mind just acts to rationalize the actions and desires of the reptilian hindbrain.

I wonder how much men are like that...

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I felt like that too at first, but I thought about it and it does make a little sense. It's not worded very carefully, but the content is pretty true. Women don't care about us, they care about what makes them happy. If you happen to make them happy, great, but if not, they'll be a bitch/refuse you or maybe keep you around for attention.

On the other hand, many MEN are like this too. It's more about how selfish you are rather than a gender issue, in my opinion.

i just broke up with her at her home she gave back my items and i gave her hers
when i told her we are over she was kinda laughing like she didnt give a fuck

That doesn't sound like a kind thing to do.

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That laughing literally means that she is shocked and hurt. That's her brain's defense mechanism to keep her from bawling right in front of you. Her mind took the negative emotions and tried to block them with a positive one, which is derived from laughing. The minute you left her house, she probably ran to her room crying for hours. When she finally stopped, her sinuses were so packed full of snot that she had a migraine for 48 hours thereafter.

yea you are right Snarg when she started giving me back my items she was laughing but when she saw that i took down my clocks from hand and gave it to her for some seconds she was like "wtf he cant be serious" and then again smile on her face

anyway she just texted me "its our both fault that we were arguing so stop blaming just me i dont feel any higher from you than you said me but take a think on that how many times you hurt me! you shouldnt leave so fast because items you left there (i left there items she tried to give me back which i gave her for birthday or for our anniversary) i am going to give you them because i dont need material items like you abased me with it! i wish you good luck..."

she wrote me this in SMS like 2 hours ago to which i still didnt reply

anyway she is still playing games lol when i went to her home she said me that she is going away soon so she doesnt have much time

I would pay money to read this thread.

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hey

i completely agree with the fact that women only have there own feelings in mind when it comes to this kinda stuff

She comes down tomorrow and lets just say im confused on how its all going to go down....

Im just going to act like it never happend and hopefully she comes to her senses
I find that there isnt much we can do to change a girls mind on these subjects.

Once they make their mind up your kinda stuck

Are you sure the laughing means "I don't give a fuck about you?"

Anyways, let us know if she contacts you. Don't you dare get in touch with her first, I will slap you.

Man, if I seen her laughing, I would've dropped the laugh killer. "I know you're laughing and all... but honestly... it's because there's another woman. And I'd never cheat on any woman, so that's why I'm doing this."

I'd just like to mention that once your emotions subside this sort of thing can become a sort of test bed for different sorts of strategy and learning more about human nature and this sort of game.

After you move out though it sort of cuts it off and she should be left to her own devices. She's obviously trying to get a rise out of you with the laughter and a lot of the other behavior.

If she's fucked with your head, why not fuck with hers? Experiment on her. Find out what makes her tick.

Meanwhile, find out what makes YOU tick. I was in a long stormy relationship years back, and I learned more about myself and about women than I would ever have learned otherwise. That shit was the definition of "plowing," and if I had it to do over again I wouldn't have wasted so much time, but on the other hand it was a learning experience for sure.

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I determined a long time ago that:

- a man falls in love with a woman (true love)

...and...

- a woman falls in love with the way a man makes her feel (self love)

Marinate on those words for a few.

I'm pretty sure I've never been truly loved by a woman, but there have been women I would have died for without question.

I could say that I'm still looking for that one to "prove me wrong", but that would be a lie. I gave up that battle a short while ago. Now I'm just living life to the fullest that I possibly can while knowing that I am the only person who will ever give a fuck about me.

Since I've made this mental shift, it seems I can't stop getting the attention of females. Everywhere I go. They are magnetically attracted to me. It's not that I don't trust them. It's that I understand them. I interact with them as though they are the scheming, self-involved creatures that they are...and it seems to turn them on.

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I think this is absolutely true.

It's a profound reframe.

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