I have never seen a man that was out of rhythm with a women/music hook up with stranger and go home with her. This coming from someone who consciously pays attention to these things everywhere I go. I have seen men who were already in a relationship, but never once have I witnessed a man hook up with a women without rhythm on the actual dance floor.

I've made observations in Mexico, Vegas, San Diego, Salt Lake multiple clubs/concerts, it is just not something that happens. Go out pay attention, you will notice the very same thing. Girls do not hook up with a guy like that. Now if they danced and then he ran into her again and his personality or whatever shows, then that happens.

There are plenty of good looking men on a dance floor, being one that doesn't know how to dance with rhythm doesn't actually help sell you as a high potential mate. How else are you suppose to differentiate yourself? As the ballsy guy who dances with you but shows no rhythm and keeps trying to dance with all the girls? I'm not even asking you to be illogical. I'm asking you to merely follow logic, why are you missing this? HOW ARE YOU MISSING IT?

If a girl subconsciously associates dancing with sex then you dancing out of rhythm with her especially shows you to subconsciously be an incompatible mate. Not a good start to showing yourself off as a possible mate.

Do me a favor, go out, pay attention and see if you see a girl going after a guy who is out of sync, see if that guy that goes from girl to girl does well when he can't dance with them. Go out and ask girls if they would rather dance with a guy with rhythm or a guy with out it. Ask 10 a modest amount especially you seem to do well with girls, I'd guess AT LEAST 8 of the 10 would say they would rather dance with a man with rhythm and that they would rather sleep with a man with rhythm.

Dangerous words? Dangerous words are often unfortunate honest words. Wake up it's good to be a part of reality.

Are you saying you can't learn rhythm? The drummer, or any musician, they all learned their rhythm. Rhythm doesn't get you laid but it certainly helps. Dance floor game isn't based on rhythm-less men with balls, sorry. You will be playing roulette with women hoping someone is attracted to you if you don't have rhythm or hoping she is drunk enough to not notice (is that part of your tactics?).

Where did I say you had to be in perfect alignment with the music? Having rhythm doesn't mean you are in step in perfect synchrony. Stop and read instead of assuming, it's getting absolutely annoying.

I'll go out and ask a bunch of girls. Making this a neutral argument, rather than biased. I'll even try and state it in a way so that it isn't biased. If you want give me the question exactly as you'd like it, if it is within what I am saying I'll use it when I go out. So you get a fair shake.

Both ff the girls I've already asked all would prefer to dance with a guy who has rhythm as well as have sex with a guy who has rhythm. They both also said "just like most girls", to me that is huge, they make the very same assumption I'm trying to convince you of.

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^You are contradicting yourself, that's what the problem is. One moment it is 'girls will ONLY have sex with guys that have rhythm. They will absolutely not have sex or dance with any other guys. You MUST have rhythm'.

Again, not an assumption. You said it.

And now . . . in this post, you keep saying that girls would RATHER dance or have sex with a guy that has rhythm. The word 'rather' changes everything. I never disagreed on that. In fact, I truly believe that girls rather like guys that know what they are doing on the dance floor.

I know this because I have lost sets because the guy next to me danced better and took the girl away from me. This has happened a few times.

One more thing. I am confused as to whether or not you are talking about the 'need of rhythm aligned to the music' or 'need of rhythm aligned to the woman'.

^Those are two different points that are NOT consisting of the same conclusion.

You will most likely need good rhythm in alignment to the WOMAN - because vibing with her will be so much more difficult otherwise.

Absolutely needing good rhythm in alignment to the music is the part that I have been disagreeing with all this time. The only part I have disagreeing with in fact.

See what I mean with 'dangerous words' you're using?

Panda

I never said those exact words. Quote me, find exactly where I said before this moment that you can't get laid on a dance floor with out rhythm? Ready, now I'm saying it straight up.

Girls don't fuck guys they met on a dance floor without rhythm, unless they some how pull them away and let their character show. It just doesn't happen. I've never ever seen it, in the 100s of interactions I've never once witnessed a man without rhythm hook up with a girl he didn't know. Go out and ask girls and observe them as well, I promise you will get the same results.

Women more often then not deny rhythm-less men trying to dance with them, I've seen it several times. I've seen a temporary appease, then the excuse to leave. That said after the excuse they avoid the man, even when he attempts to come back he is denied.

Get over it, it sucks but girls go after men with rhythm, avoid men with out rhythm, this isn't some secret. Get the fuck over it. I'm tired of arguing about logical ideas. This is a stupid argument and you know it.

By the way I want to thank you for proving my point with your personal experience, you lost girls to guys with rhythm LOL and you are still arguing this wow, learn from it.

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Guys with no rhythm don't get laid. It just doesn't happen. It doesn't happen because you've never seen it with your own two eyes.

Guys with no rhythm can get laid. It does happen because it has happened to me and I have seen it with my own two eyes as well.

(One of my friends does it all the time. In fact, it's embarrassing having him on the dance floor, that's how much he sucks. He's even worse than me. And I've seen him pull and fuck 2 girls in one night. All from the dance floor).

And no, we are not having a stupid argument. We are having a discussion. If you're sick of talking about this, (and you seem to be so considering that your ways of ending this discussion is 'I am right, face it, and get the fuck over yourself') - then just quit replying. Easy as that.

Moving on. No need for me to quote what you said, because now you just literally said it again. And it's ridiculous that your argument that holds the entirety of your belief is 'I haven't seen it - therefore, it cannot be true'.

Which of these arguments is stronger:

1. 'This has never happened before in my experience. Therefore, it will never happen and it's impossible to suggest that it's happening without my knowledge of it. Hmmm, okay - maybe there are a few exceptions then, but that's it! Otherwise, anyone talking against me and disagreeing and believing that this is possible must be absolutely "crazy" to do so'.

2. 'I agree with your argument to a certain extent. There is a PREFERENCE in your argument but it is not a necessity. In addition, my own experience has disproven your argument already. So not only is your argument disproven - but it is also wrong in itself when being said that it holds true because nothing different has ever been experienced by the person in question.'

I'm not gonna tell you to get over yourself or end this right now, because I believe you ARE right. But you are using the wrong kind of arguments and your words are out on the thin ice, just about to fall through and freeze to death in the ice cold water.

Valid point Panda

Questions:

Was your buddy fucking girls that were intoxicated?

Did the girls themselves have no rhythm(some girls can't dance) that they could follow along with?

Did he have to drag the girls away from the dance floor to have a conversation first?

These were girls he had never met before? There was no vague familiarity? Complete strangers?

I'd wager one of these questions changes the situation in every case or more. The point was to go straight to making, needing any of these to happen takes some of the influence you have out of your hands, right?

How did your buddy not have rhythm? Didn't you say everyone has rhythm? Contradicting yourself?

I still want you to go ask girls, go to the source. Why shouldn't we? I'd bet you have far more rhythm then your letting on. I'd also bet that if you aren't someone with rhythm you are playing roulette. Basically doing the "would you like to fuck?" non-verbally until you get a yes. That would work and again I'd wager in 80% (conservatively) of those cases they didn't fuck a guy without other influences to the situation.

How about this you can fuck a girl without rhythm if you play roulette. You can go from girl to girl doing the non-verbal "would you like to fuck?" on the dance floor and just like the auditory version it will eventually work out.

Now go ask girls.

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Hm, I've never really asked myself that. Well, I'm no rhythm guy myself, so I can't really recall whether or not the girls had rhythm themselves.

Conversation? I think he exchanged like 3 sentences with the girls, on the dancefloor. He didn't even have to isolate to carry on a regular conversation.

He didn't know these girls at all, they were total strangers and he went completely direct on them. Shock and Awe.

He's no PUA and he doesn't know about the community, but he's just naturally awesome with girls. I see him pull girls REALLY fast with Shock and Awe.

But yeah, I suppose we could ask around and see what the result will show. It'll be fun.

Nono i did not mean it like that.

I see it as a rare succes when you kiss close a girl without talking that is dancing with her girlfriends.

Kiss closing a girl thats dances solo without saying a word is easily possible if you got the right moves.

I still see dance floor game as something thats hard to learn, and i do want to learn it, im now watching Flirt2thebeat wich some1 posted, looks nice.

Yup nice opener and an honest one too. Got to love and honest reason to open women.

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Amadeus Flirt2thebeat guy, sounds legit... The only thing i disagree a bit, is the coming form behind section, that he has, i think approaching front or side the best, from behind they got a turn around and they do not know how you look, or if you are a creep...

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k two movies come to mind when i do dance foor game, of what it is an it isn't, dirty dancing/saturday night fever, i am not talking about the dancing, i am talking about my style and the feelings people and the girl should have when dancing with you, look at the similarities, and the way both guys act, pua/alpha/sensual/sexual... That is my style with modern dances etc:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8f4ejOIo5U



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZCtgFmQ ... re=related

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