Yeah, I'd say 20-30 points sounds good. At the moment the points really don't count for much aside from bragging rights, but being able to give points to a guy that should be in there but that is only at 10 would be cool.

Meth, I'm not gonna get into a flame war with you. I know you're the superior PUA and that you don't need me to tell you shit, so you can calm down. All I was refering to is the lot of people that had only been here for a couple weeks at most and hadn't even hit 100 posts and were claiming to be too good for this forum and needing a place for "real PUAs". Seriously, don't give me shit for calling those guys premadonas, because its true and I've seen you post worse stuff to people who acted like that.

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im guessin its gonna be a section where the senior and serious contributors to this forum can post and not have it available to the public... after all this shit went mainstream this site has been getting like 40,000 hits a day thanks to google putting is as one of the top search results for pick-up artist, pua and the likes... too many of the posts we get are "what do I do now" or "whats a good opener" or simply situational when theres about 20 threads already covering the subject... we need it and I better be a part of it!!!

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I was actually thinking that the whole forum could be built like that. You could only post in the Newbie area until you had 5-10 points, then you gain posting access to the rest of the forum and at 30 points you'll gain access to the VIP/PUA section. This would keep newcomers away from more serious discussion.

Might also be useful to have an 18+ area where we can post more details and exclusive stuff. And no, I'm not talking about lay reports and pics (although I don't object ) I'm talking about giving sexual advice and exchanging tips in bed. Can't do that when there are 18- running around. Fuck the feds.

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i dont think it should be based on points, because then people will start freeposting to get their counts up

example:

a thread is made and a question is asked, one or two good answers come in first....freepost heaven..."oh yeah i agree with xxxxx"......."yeah he is right"

if its going to be done properly, there would have to be established vets on the site who would debate whether to allow people in, and that starts with xfman, he probably has everything figured out already, but hes obviously in charge of it and should have the rights to people who have access

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The Newbie area would be terrible if it was full of nothing but newbs though. They need people to get them up on their feet.

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Ice: there is such a thing as removing points. If someone posts ten spams anyone could go and kill his hard work easy.

Rye Lee: Don't be stupid. There's be a few old timers in the newbie forum just like there is right now (or so I hope, haven't been there for a while) I'm just saying that you newbies couldn't post on the rest of the forum till they got some experience down. This would save the rest of the forum from guys with 0.3 points posting one piece of garbage and then disappearing.

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The trick is to make the experience unforgettable to her.
A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime.

You said it as if you could only post until you had 10 points man, that's why I said that. Why is everyone being so defensive today?

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as somebody who isn't quite at the advanced stuff, and still a high schooler(Senior!!!) this sounds great. Some of the advanced stuff is nice to know, and tips are always nice but sometimes, they are just better for latter and more experience.

I would like to have a high school section, because it can be very different. Many of the same ideals apply but there are defiantly routines out there that are high school specific and some are over 21/18 specific.

just my spiel

Guess my other post about me leaving forever is REVOKED with this post. Oh well, I'm still monitoring from time to time. Time to address
Aside from the beef present, Rye Lee, you got a point holmes.

I've looked far and wide on this forum, and I think you and I will both agree we have enough amateur PUAs to make an Ass-clown circus.

I dont even want to call most of these guys PUAs, as they show arrogance and attitude when they post their nonsense. Of course, in the grand scheme of things, post counts do not matter. However, what does matter is the quality of CHARACTER that comes from posters, and so far, most of the new members lack that character that seperates the true PUAs here that WANT to learn, and those who want to make a mockery out of it. I grow sick to my stomach when I see people berating others with no definitive explanation behind the berating.

But enough of that. Xfman's undergoing the most benefical thing to this forum by putting in a private section. Hopefully that way, most of the guys here (Those that care and give a shit about improving), can find a haven to rise up and enjoy life.

Also, on the note of the overgrowth of amateurs and ass clowns, I'll share a story of another forum that has shared a similar fate: Acmlm's board.

Acmlm's board, for those that dont know, is a board where computer programmers and game hackers go to create their own ROM hacks and utilities. Some of the more prominent creations involved level editing of games such as Super Mario World, The Legend Of Zelda:A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Yoshi's Island, and other video games (Majoritally SNES).

In the beginning, the community had quality ROM hackers whom have created AMAZING rom hacks and hacking utilities. These guys were budding programmers looking to foster their abilites and develop skills for the future, much like we're doing here.

Years passed, and eventually, a horde of ass clowns came, and flooded the forum with stupid questions like: Doh how doez th1s R0m ThINgY weRk loLolz? Eventually, all the good hackers left, ass clowns came to destroy, and eventually, it was hard to find good talent amongs the retards.

Acmlm had to create 5 (That's FIVE) new forums, one after the other, because of the influx of ass clowns. Today, all the great hackers are gone, and the new generation is still trying to get a move. They've improved, but the ROM hacking movement has slowed to the speed of a moving iceberg.

With PUA forum, eventually, sorry to say, but 3x as many ass clowns will barge in. They will ask stupid questions, drive everyone nuts, and evict the best of the best, leaving a few sturdy PUAs, and a sea of idiots.

The original founder of Acmlm's board, Acmlm himself, left the board after the 3rd forum's instillment (Although he was never that active to begin with). Regardless, it this keeps up, eventually, Xfman will most likely hand over management of the forum to another, and retards will kill the forum (It shouldn't happen, as many of us have faith in Xfman and his management abilities)

Before this turns into an ode to Xfman, just to get the point across: The private forum will benefit EVERYONE who cares, and the rest of the sections will be left to the idiots to ravage.

...WOW! that was long. xD.

yes it was long, but it sums up what happens in life

it was like the gold rush that happened back in history and i dont care when it was because im not a text book

but everyone eventually went west to dig for gold, it became chaos, everything depleted, and it was all left like that

thats my take

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if you dont charge a fee its going to get alot of attention. Also you really dont know who should be in there for all i know its going to be wierd think about it you know whos whos. FOR POINTS TO GET IN??? thats a dumb idea...WHOs REAL and whos Fake. Some newb are actually Pua but havent pratice the art for awhile. Some PUA see this forum and want to join and contribute to the site. Some Pua join and test other PUA to see if they know theyre shit. So you really dont know who will be who. HAHA but this is GOOD!!! a private section ha. Now for the real dudes you must have some material that you learn from your field test recalibrate certain lines ROUTINES negs and ect. and wouldnt want to share it to the PUBLIC. i dont blame you because im the same look at style in the game it seem hollywood been sarged out or some shit like that. XFman and Redbull i acknowledge yall the rest if i see thier post im not hating but its just whack. Some are REALLY good and some suck and straight up awful advice. Continued your journey to a better life and dont let as you say ASS CLOWN get to you haha they're CLOWNS . By the way if there are advance material i would like to know. Artist

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Well, coming from someone who pretty much just joined this forum,
I'm hoping you guys don't lock yourselves up in there and never come
out to help those who need it.

Though I'm not totally new to what I would call this "Underground
Dating Scene", I came to this forum for help (and to contribute what
I can) and it would suck that the guys who know what they are doing
(I can tell who you are) begin filing out one-by-one.