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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:14 pm 
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Hey what's up guys? This girl in my class had been giving IOI's , proximity thing(always next to me in class) and even said "well we both live on campus so we can study together". I get her number and i told her my phone was broke..so after 5 days i call her when i get my phone and she doesn't pick up, i leave a message and that's it.

I'd love if i could get an answer by 5pm haha b/c that's when i have class with her. How do i act towards her? It's not congruent on how she acts in class/talking during breaks and then not picking up my call(didn't seem like that type of girl). I'm thinking that i just ignore her, but should i bring up the fact, and if so how should i word it...."i called you to study and you didn't pick up..what the fuck?" Thx for reading guys!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:12 pm 
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you are over analyzing it, just do what you normally do

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:28 am 
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treat her the same you always have. weirdness is bad


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:06 am 
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Yeah I'm with ice on this one. Don't ruin it before it even has a chance to get started.

And don't make a big deal out of the fact that she didn't answer the phone for whatever reason.

Call her when you get a chance, and get up with her when it's convenient. And remember she doesn't owe you anything just because she's been nice to you. We'd like girls to do more of that, not less of it.

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Ever think she didn't pick up cause she's busy? People do not answer phones just because. I don't answer half the time, if I have an important call I like to be the one initiating it.

Next time you see her make a matter-of-fact remark that you called. Say something like "playing hard to get" with a totally straight face. If she doesn't make a deal out of it then you shouldn't. Worst that can happen is you ask her out after class.

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She didn't respond to your voice message? And that was your FIRST call to her after some direct IOIs ("We should study together.")?

Pretend it didn't happen but do not show any interest in her whatsoever. NEG her lightly. Let her re-initiate outside-of-class contact.

She DLVd you by not calling back. You DLV her and trigger her need to find affirmation from you by NEGGING her.


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Hey ty for the replies everyday! Unfortuantely id din't get a chance to read these messages before class. i THOUGHT i did good though, i had a pimp day when it came to alpha/frames. From the second she walked in i was gaming (and producing lots of IOIs) from this hb7 and hb7-8. I mean, i wasn't interested in them though, sole purpose was to show social proof/DHV.

So i finally get her interest and she starts butting into the conversation and i play it pretty cold to her and i'm sure she knows why. Anyway, i mention a little later "oh i called u on sunday". Then play it extra cold from then on. OUr class was leaving early and she was basically waiting when i decided to leave and I showed lots of SOD. On the walk back from class i basically went from ice to her to make her laughing like hell. She then asked for my number so she can call me sometime. She has yet to call, so it seems she pulled the shit again. I think this was a flake although all IOIs are there which i don't understand.


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who cares, keep gaming other girls and DON'T ask her why she hasn't called, you doing that makes you look desperate and shows too much interest... don't you call her either, if anything, you send a text and "tell", don't ask, tell her lets go out tonight/tmw/whenever to somewhere specific like the new chinese restaurant, the mall, the park...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:07 am 
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From the second she walked in i was gaming (and producing lots of IOIs) from this hb7 and hb7-8. I mean, i wasn't interested in them though, sole purpose was to show social proof/DHV.
Obviously that was good. But you SHOULD actually pursue them further. Run more game with them.
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So i finally get her interest and she starts butting into the conversation and i play it pretty cold to her and i'm sure she knows why. Anyway, i mention a little later "oh i called u on sunday". Then play it extra cold from then on. OUr class was leaving early and she was basically waiting when i decided to leave and I showed lots of SOD. On the walk back from class i basically went from ice to her to make her laughing like hell. She then asked for my number so she can call me sometime. She has yet to call, so it seems she pulled the shit again. I think this was a flake although all IOIs are there which i don't understand.
You finally GET her interest? That sounds you were trying too hard. Maybe I just read it wrong. The remark "oh i called u on sunday" was NOT good. That's AFC. Shows you were AFFECTED by what she did. DLV's you. So the coldness at that point could be looked at from her view as you trying even harder. Then, you start making her laugh, which is ok, but I don't know that I would have put that effort in.

Now she hasn't called again. FLAKE FLAKE FLAKE. FLUSH FLUSH FLUSH. Next.


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Yep.. Next..

She sounds young. Young in maturity, not just age.

Let her keep your number, and don't burn any bridges with her. Maybe she'll come to her senses and you'll get a call out of nowhere one day, etc... She may be shy as well and worried about where this is leading. That's perfectly natural.

Sounds to me like not enough social proof, rapport or trust was built up with her to make her feel comfortable about taking the next step. So she's balking at escalating the situation.

Just play it cool, and find something to occupy yourself in the meantime. I have a feeling once you start getting hot and heavy with another chick, this one will suddenly appear out of the woodwork wondering what she's missing.

Of course all that could be wrong and she's getting it on with another guy already. Hard to say for sure without knowing her.

Damn women are so predictable. 8)

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class game is delicate. u have to play it back because you see them all the time. dont blow it too early. establish attraction. comfort seems to come naturally after a few classes and then closings easy dont give her too much attention too often. let her pursue you and stop giving a shit. be the cool funny guy in class. not the guy that talks too much.

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Damn women are so predictable. 8)
LOL. Sometimes that's good, sometimes not. Or maybe it's always good? lol


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Hey thanks for the replies!! I didn't mean "finally" like i tried to get her involved...i mean after a lot of making these girls laugh their ass off and carry conversations with another big group..then she butted in. But anyway.

Yeah, it really isn't congruent ..from day one of class ( i was reading about body language earlier that day) She was right next to me doing textbook IOI...preening...body facing me...casting glances..exposing neck. So i figured...wow..i don't even have to open and i got this one.

We talk and she's always into the conversation and i gotta my sense of humor was right on. And then a suggestion of "well you live on campus so lets study"..waiting for me to leave...then asking for my number b/c she didn't get mine. THEN not calling ...WTF mate?


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