So, I am going to offer this general process of sexual escalation to the community, in hopes that people will read it, think about it, try it out, and give feedback.

I stumbled upon this very simple concept after *accidentally* seducing one of my fellow classmates while we were at a psychology conference. To give you the Cliff notes version, what happened was we were standing around talking about what we were going to do for the next couple hours before Phil Zimbardo gave a lecture at this conference. Basically, I told this girl that I was going to go lift at the hotel's weight-room, do some running on the tread-mill, and then take a shower before meeting up with her. She was saying how she needed to take a shower too. I noticed at the end of the conversation that there was a lot of sexual tension that had built up- because I had been imagining her taking a shower and I am pretty sure she had done the same. This was as a result of mentally following what was being talked about in our conversation, not me being horny or having a thing for her in particular. The way the story ends is like this- I am 99.99% sure I could have had sex with her, because when we eventually sat down next to me at this lecture, she immediately started talking about sex and how she was really horny. Hmmmm...

So, to get to my simple method of verbally escalating a conversation, try this:

phase 1) You begin the conversation in a very fun and energetic mood. Picture in your mind what a fun and energetic conversation with someone would look like for you, and then do it.

phase 2) You transition from fun and energetic to flirty. You do this by being playful, changing your body language slightly, making an occasional remark about what she's wearing, how she smells, how she looks, or whatever. You're beginning to show her you think of her as a woman.

phase 3) You transition the conversation to things associated with sex. You're not actually talking specifically about sex, but things you might associate with it. Tell a story about a great massage you had. Tell a story about the great shower you had this morning. Let me throw in an example:
"I am feeling sooo good today. But I have this theory that it all starts with having a good shower in the morning. My shower this morning was FAN-TASTIC! There's just something about the way the water massages my back and the smell of my body wash that just makes me feel alive. How was your shower this morning?" Something along those lines.

phase 4) You transition from talking about quasi-sexual things like showers to sexuality in general. Just be sure to pick the right moment to transition into sexuality. Just pick the moment when you think that she might be aroused to the point where she will *want* to have that conversation. I honestly believe that it's always best for the man to start this kind of conversation, because women prefer to follow-the-leader when it comes to sexuality. You be the one to lead the conversation that way, and if you encounter resistance to that conversational thread, it might not be the right timing. You can always re-initiate it later, though.

phase 5) If you've got her talking about sex, you've got her thinking about sex. What you want to do is make sure that you have established enough social comfort with her that you can suggest going back to either her place or yours. Don't frame it like, "so, let's get out of here and fuck." Try framing it more like, "Hey, I want to show you something back at my place..." or come up with some reason to go back to her place. There has to be a reason, though. Basically, phase 5 is about figuring out the logistics of getting two horny people into a private place together.

And that should be all you need. When you get to the private place, that's when you can start physically escalating. Now she won't feel embarassed about it.

The fact of the matter is that it isn't always a viable option to physically escalate with a woman in public. This is my answer to that problem. I hope you have enjoyed this post, and let me know if you get a chance to test it out...

This was great. More posts please! But can you give some examples of escalating into each.

yeah, great post mate

but guys, please, don't forget, don't get too sexual before comfort, it'll never work out

cheers

Good post
No offense but this is bullshit. I've had success from being sexual right away. In fact I always am. Of course you need to start off small then build it up, but saying you need "comfort" before you can start to be sexual is silly. That's just like saying "you need to be friends first before you can move towards a relationship". We all know where that lands you - friendzone . Don't be afraid of being sexual guys...

lol

I suppose Skygroove got a point here..

you guys should deff checkout mystery's interview with david deangelo

got a link to that?

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Nah you're not getting it... Sometimes girls are comfortable with being sexual right away, a lot quicker than most people expect most of the time. I think it's always best to get to that point and escalate the interaction as quickly as possible, if you have the opportunity to get sexual, go for it. Forget having a complicated structure (A1, A2, A3, don't do this before she gives you 3 IOIs, don't do this before you get to this phase, blah blah blah...). It's bollocks.

Also, Mystery and David DeAngelo are two of the biggest scam artists ever. Neither of them are as good with women as they make you think they are, they're just both good marketers, and because they're the most famous guys everyone kisses their arses...

... really?


Mystery's stuff makes a lot of sense. Sure drunken club girls are more comfortable with being sexual straight away, but I think Mysteries work is still pretty statistically relevant on how to run a textbook set.

Any sexuality conveyed by a decent women BEFORE it's supposed to come is a shit test. I once had this convo with a few party girls on a train on the way to a club, within 5 minutes the convo went sexual and they were asking "So how long are YOUU?". Huge shit test, if you treat this as "Yay i got into seduction, without comfort" YOU WILL CRASH and BURN.

"Heh, i'v only known you for like 5 minutes, and already you're asking me all these... personal.. questions, she always like this " Is appropriate response.


Sex is serious business to these women, their biologically programmed to only give it out after they're sure the guy will stick around.

A lot of the stuff that get's taught by these "gurus" makes sense when they explain it, most of it doesn't work in real life though, at least not as much as they say it does. They're just trying to sell you something a lot of the time.

This idea that only drunken club girls will be comfortable with being sexual is proably gonna hold you back. I'll do a bit of KJing and try and explain why...

First off, girls are bigger sluts than you think. They're just like us men, they love sex, and a lot of them enjoy sleeping around. They're just more discreet about it because they don't want to be judged as sluts (that's also why you get drunken club girls, they use the alcohol as an excuse to be sexual without being judged too negatively).

When a girl sees a guy as a potential boyfriend (which if you run MM, telling her cool stories about yourself and making yourself sound awesome, she will do) she will date you and make you wait, because she wants to keep you. She'll put on this good girl image because she doesn't want you to think she's the kind of girl to sleep around. She'll lie about the number of guys she's slept with, she'll say she hates one night stands, she'll put on an act to get you...

When she comes across a guy who pushes things sexually however she will behave differently. She'll still pretend to be offended, creeped out, pretend to be a good girl... But once she realises the guy can be discreet, that he's a sexual threat, that he's probably gonna be great in bed, and that he knows she's full of shit, she'll stop seeing him as a potential boyfriend and as more of a sexual threat, she'll be thinking about going home with him instead of making him wait (e.g. a girl told me she hated one night stands, had only slept with 3 people and only did it in relationships... when in fact later on when she knew I wasn't looking for a relationship, I found she'd slept with about 30 guys, and had quite a few one night stands...)

It's much easier to build a connection with a girl and go for a relationship or whatever you want after you've had sex with her. So what would you rather do, run 7 hours of DHV stories and routines, get her number at the end of the night then wait for a date? Or would you rather take her home the same night (if you don't someone else probably will) and build a connection much faster? I think we'd all choose the second one right? If not most of the time she will end up blowing you off because she's more interested in the second guy. The best way to be that guy that is to focus on being sexual rather than DHVing and following a complicated structure. MM complicates things so much...