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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:07 pm 
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Hey guys. There's a girl who really loves the camero. She thinks it's a wonderful car. I want to become a symbol to her that represents the camero. She loves the way it has so much power but rides so smooth. How can I use nlp/hypnosis to my advantage in becoming a symbol that represents the camaro to her?


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Anchor the car to you, be like, i can't believe how in love with cameros (pointing lightly to yourself/ gesturing to yourself) do that for the car, when talking about power, the 'smooth ride' ;) haha ect, use that Itl work wonders. Anchoring bro :)


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Just anchoring? No big patterns or anything? Thanks man.


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Maybe you can use a small routine in which that might go like this...

YOU: The other day I realized what it takes to have the best moment of your life...

HER: Really, tell me more... blah blah

YOU: Well it starts with a mixture of things you love (point yourself), but they have to be from different types, like having emotional, physical and the "unique moment" feeling to make the whole experience unforgettable... Imagine you have a car you love, just like a camero you are extremely happy, etc. (describe the experience and tap her shoulder) but this just makes a nice moment, now imagine you are riding the camero (point at yourself everytime you say camero in a subtle way) and you start hearing the perfect song that turns you crazy... that will make a great moment but what if you were driving with this person you think is (use the same adjectives as the camero to describe yourself or "This person" like bold, smooth, etc... and POINT to yourself with every adjective) ______, you start feeling this great emotion and you feel this strong connection between THIS PERSON and the CAMERO and the music and the moment just to arrive to the perfect sunset in an incredible beach.

HER: yeah ... blah blah

YOU: So it doesn't matter if you had great music forever because it would only be emotional happiness but if you have this physical/emotional and unique experience of heading to an unknown place with great music, riding this magnificent piece (you could point your dick lol) and being with this person you love... now you have the best moment of your life...


HER: blah blah

YOU: Well now talking about other things... I was thinking of making a trip to the beach in a CAMERO... Do you wanna COME?

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Hey man. I wouldn't go for a bold pattern, because I've tried all that stuff and it lost me so many lays (and embarrassed the hell out of me in front of a friend). Instead of being so overt/direct, I would try fit it in conversationally.

Best way to do this is to use the camero as a means of priming. Talk about it, let HER talk about it, and do so in a way that allows her to get into "state". You could make it ambiguous by switching referential index (being vague as to whether you're referring to the car or yourself), and using the "this/that" switch and some self-pointing. I don't usually use much of these intentionally but there's no harm, I guess.

Once she's in the state you've got to associate it to you. You can do this any number of ways... One might be to say "would you ever sleep with a guy who hated Cameros?"
She says "yes", "no" or "do you hate Cameros?"
You say "Great, should we leave now?", "See, we were meant to be together" or "You'll find out after we sleep together"
Bear in mind these are just examples off the top of my head, I'm sure there's much better things you could say.

Most importantly (and kind of dealt with in the last part), the entire priming using the Camero is just a means to an end. This should be used to escalate. There's so many things to escalate with, when talking about a car. This is the most important stage and without it the hypnotic stuff doesn't make a difference.
I'm not gonna give you anything specific to say here because I'm not there in the moment. Just make sure to bank on this and push the boundaries a little, allow her to conform to the state you've built in her.

EDIT I must mention, this is party based on Beckster's Priming, Affect and Association.


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Honestly, I don't use 'patterns' I just anchor alot constantly anchoring good things to me, and bad things to, well, other people or things that she doesn't like (but I wouldn't try that yet) just anchor the car to you. And if she says it's 'powerful' ECG, u say it's 'powerful' but anchor powerful to you, no big pattern, and soon youl always anchor good things to you haha it becomes almost second nature. I don't mean to be disrespectful or anything to people who REALLY study patterns, but I myself find them too out there, just anchor alot and it works just as well as anything. I might get crap for saying that, but I only really anchor, try it, trust me


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Pinocchio. How do I talk to her in a way that puts her into state? Could u give an example? Thanks. Lol. And I'd like to thank everyone for their input.


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I like a lot of these ideas. I can see how a lot of this will only serve to benefit you.
If you can manufacture a connection between A) Her, B) The Camero, C)You and D)Fun & excitement; you're sorted.

Whenever you talk about the Camero, try and make everything "we". Talk about all the cool places she wants to go and things she wants to do in that car with you.

You could try and bring her emotions into play; e.g. "How do you feel when you drive this car?" (answer) "what else makes you feel like that" (answer) "I can make you feel like that, but you have to work for it."

Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated.


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You can create your own pattern using sexual metaphors like this:

You: "You like Camero's, right?"
Her: Yes
You: "When you see this in front of you what do you feel?" (draw a rectangle in the air in front of your face)
Her: I feel a rush, an excitement. (take mental notes of her trance words: rush, excitement)
You: That's good. I have friend who loves Camero's too and she was saying: When you sit on it (point to cock), you FEEL INSTANT PLEASURE, and every time you go away (gesture hands away from yourself) this feeling diminishes, but when you cum closer (gesture hands closer to you) this good feeling becomes stronger and stronger (move your hand on her arm going up to set up a sliding anchor) to the point when you feel a rush, an excitement all through out your body, your heart beats faster, and you want to MAKE THIS YOURS FOREVER.
And she also said this is a lot like when you fall in love. Can you FEEL THAT as maybe how it happens? (touch her hand to set up anchor)

You need good tonality for this and a skillful set up in a normal conversation for it to be covert and avoid resistance.

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Pinocchio. How do I talk to her in a way that puts her into state? Could u give an example? Thanks. Lol. And I'd like to thank everyone for their input.
Well the mere mention of Camero's will prime her mind, and immediately let her access that state a little. To intensify it, just give her more access to the feeling, eg. of what I might say:
"I know what you mean. For me it would be an Impreza, 'cause I love the whole rally thing, the idea of going fast down a dirt road, drifting around corners and winning the race, you know? It's that feeling of absolute freedom, flying it down a long road, on a sunny day, friend with you, tunes blaring. Road trip!"
See what she says, and I might carry on with something like:
"You know what? I know where there's a Camero. We should totally steal it. We could each gather as much money as we can, steal the Camero and drive around, state to state, living a new life wherever we go" etc...
You could bring up Bonnie and Clyde or what have you. keep it going, get her involved. It's a fun role-play. You could also say "if it doesn't work out between us I'm taking the Camero".

As far as tonality goes, if you're saying something exciting, be excited. Don't mark out commands heavily (I don't think even there too important right now). If you're saying certain words you may want to emphasize them (Long = L-L-O-O-N-N-G-G, etc). Good tonality is NOT hypnotic tonality.

EDIT When I say "It's that feeling of absolute freedom, flying it down a long road, on a sunny day, friend with you, tunes blaring. Road trip!" you could in fact use the word "you" more often:
"It's that feeling, do you know it? Of absolute freedom... you're flying down the road, the sun beaming down on you, friend about, blasting your tunes as loud as they go. "We're on a fuckin' road trip!""
This way you're a little more ambiguous as to who you're talking to. Might be worth trying out, but as you improve, you'll how much to push it, or not.


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