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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:02 am 
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Ok I've been in this game now for 4 years and somehow this girl I'm going out with has made me more AFC then I was to start with. We've been arguing and to be honest it's been my fault my past insecurities from my other relationship is starting to come out where I don't think I'm good enough for her! and tonight we spoke I tried to sort out all this arguing out with her and she's been asking me why I'm having doubts and it's only me who's been thinking that this weeks been bad with us two. So I told her I didn't want to lose her, And she said that i wouldn't and putting all these doubts into her head is fucking her head up etc... So I'm seeing her tomorrow! and I need to stop been an AFC and start been how i was with her at the start and not make not want me any more. Please help guys would mean allot!!

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I am suffering the exact same problem. In a relationship earlier this year I kept being afraid I was going to lose her and now im in another one and ive started worrying that she is losing extreme interest. Help?!


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Why do you think you need our help when you seem to have already decided on a course of action?
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I need to stop been an AFC and start been how i was with her at the start and not make not want me any more.

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Stop doubting yourself, you have too learn too trust yourself, believe in you


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Thanks for the reply's yeah i know the answer but i don't know how to change I'm preety far in and it's not easy to drag yourself back out. Should i just say listen I'm sorry for been a pussy this week and lets start from scratch? something along those lines?

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No, don't say I'm sorry I was a pussy,
Just recognize and fix your behavior


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your gf didnt turn you into an afc, you let yourself turn into a afc


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Don't say you were a pussy. You can say you really appreciate her understanding, because you were going through some personal stuff lately and you know you've been acting a little weird. Just get your act together and that's it. You can do it!


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One thing you need to realize...Women think like us some what but on a different level...The only fucking reason you think she is to good for you is because of her fucking looks...There is no other reason why a girl should be on your levels...Stop letting her looks and beauty get to you...Just treat her like she is just any another woman you can pick up.

That is your girls goal to turn you into a AFC, but you did let her by taking her shit and let her control you...You take charge and lead.

Fellows STOP STOP STOP letting a woman control your happiness...Because once you become needed, women don't get a fuck about you! Never let a woman control your happiness....Men have no problems just day dreaming and staying happy...Women could never do the same things we can which makes you better than her...She knows you are better than her which is why the tests happen...A woman wants a strong man that will dominate and lead her...She doesn't want a man to lead

Remember you are a King and she can ONLY become a Queen if you let her. Queens are still below a fucking King...So never let her rule...You still have to take care of her but never be afraid to lose her and walk away

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Men are not better than women or vice versa, but naturally men lead, and women follow. She doesn't want too lead in the relationship, she wants you too be the man and take control, and when you fail to do that she loses attraction for you.


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Men are not better than women or vice versa, but naturally men lead, and women follow. She doesn't want too lead in the relationship, she wants you too be the man and take control, and when you fail to do that she loses attraction for you.
A King is higher than a Queen...ALWAYS! Which puts men better than women! Someone has to lead....The stronger and better person always leads. That is why men are better! There is no way you can argue against that fact...Women are still trying to become men which is why they try to run the relationship...Not all women but most women are a little envy of guys!

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I agree that a man has to lead, but saying that men are better than women is borderline with misogyny. Why would you even wanna be with somebody if you think you're better than them? I agree with a lot of what you say Whoopie, but it's not true men are just better than women. A lot of women are better at handling a lot of stuff than their partners, for example finances and business. But that doesn't mean a smart girl wants to run everything, she still wants a man to lead and in bed she wants him to take control, that's completely natural.


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Thank’s for the replys
I agree with you both no men arn’t better than women we are both equals, but men should be the man in the relationship like you said the king. It’s strage when I’m with her she’s the one doing all the chasing I know what I’m doing when it comes to us been in each other presence but over the phone internet etc... It always feels like I’m been so afc/needy. I’ve been told to try meditating which is going fine at the moment! It’s just I always think the worst when I’m in a relationship it tottally sucks because deep down I know she’s not any of the things my mind accuses her of.

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Men are not better than women or vice versa, but naturally men lead, and women follow. She doesn't want too lead in the relationship, she wants you too be the man and take control, and when you fail to do that she loses attraction for you.
A King is higher than a Queen...ALWAYS! Which puts men better than women! Someone has to lead....The stronger and better person always leads. That is why men are better! There is no way you can argue against that fact...Women are still trying to become men which is why they try to run the relationship...Not all women but most women are a little envy of guys!
Nah that's wrong and inhumane, a King is not better he just plays a different role, he is the LEADER, that does not mean he is better than his wife, so if you have a brother and sister, your brothers life has more value than your sisters? Women will try too lead the relationship if you can't step up and have the balls to be the man and run it yourself. Ever saw 300? Did Leonidis' wife try too lead him? No, because he was man, and she knew he was capable of leading, now do you think he put himself on a pedestal over his wife? No, they just have different roles.


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So I dated this girl for a total of 6 weeks. I actually seduced her with PUA tactics. I had this laid back style and made her work for me. I was the 'prize' I had the higher value. When things got a bit deeper she told me she was in love with me, wanted a relationship and after a few weeks she asked me over to her parents house.

So all cool right? No, because I was doing the same. I had the same feeling so I told her I was in love. I agreed with having a relationship. And after she asked me over to her parents I did the same. I also fixed her bike, fixed her laptop. We discussed things to do, so I planned a one day trip to Antwerp (which is quite near) and simple things like that. I turned from a junior PUA in to the AFC (the sweet/good guy) that I usually am.

So that's when things got messy. She told me she had fear of commitment, she didn't knew if she was really in love. She didn't liked the planning and needed things that were more spontaneous. Basically I went off my game and acted as the nice guy. She lost interest. Even though I offered the same things as she did (visiting parents) it gave her a different feeling.

So right now we broke up. We both agreed we had a different vision on this relationship.

I analyzed all of this and came to the conclusion I went too far with being mister nice guy and gave her the feeling she was the prize instead of making her work for me as in I'm the price.

Things that also do play a factor in this is that my friends live in a different city as the girl and I do so I didn't got to show my leader of men skills. And I'm a computer science student. According to Matadors table of attraction switches I am doomed as a computer programmer

She's attending the same college as I am and friday next week we, together with some friends, will host a night at a bar. My goal is not necessarily to get her back. My goal is to spike her interest in me again. I want to get back from being an AFC to her to a 'prize'. I need the fix my higher value.

I already worked on a neg to use when I see her. It's a throw and go: "Hey did you gain a little weight? + kino on the shoulder + It's not that obvious though. Nice seeing you!".

And than I take off to whatever I'm going.

So guys, any suggestions how I can gain my higher value again?


Last edited by The Engineer on Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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