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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:34 am 
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Any suggestions of a good way to close when studying with a girl?
This will come in very handy for me. It always seems the easiest way to get to spend time with a girl. So come on fellas, spill the secrets and help a brother out.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:43 am 
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Well, you gotta be already flirting with her and slipping some sexuality in there before you study with her.

You can't normally just be friends and then go study with her and whip out your dick.

As long as you've been flirting and you've shown some sexuality, then you can treat studying just like if you were on a date and you got her back to your place....

Do you want specific details on how to make a move?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:51 am 
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well weve always been keen on each other, weve told each other that and we know it. but that was a couple of years back and weve never been able to do anything about it because one of us has always been in a relationship. so theres always been something there, just havent initiated anything yet. im not expecting to 'whip my dick out' straight up anyway. haha, but at least be able to get something goin on


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:18 am 
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Ok then you just gotta get the sexuality going before you study with her so u CAN close during ur study session.

Do u need advice on things to say to get the sexuality going?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:50 am 
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"Do u need advice on things to say to get the sexuality going?"

Of course he does! That's what he's asking us man!

So, what subject are you studying? Use that to relate to something about kissing.
This is the formula i might use in that situation.
Attraction>Isolation>Kino Escalation>Kiss Reference>Kiss

So you're studying, I assume in a secluded, private setting. You have to instigate touch somehow and turn that attraction switch on. You're not gonna get physical by just talking about something sexual. (That won't hurt but I'd make it more subtle than the touching.) I really feel Kino is key here.
Find a way to touch/hold her hands. Mystery teaches this very well, and if you can relate it to the subject you're studying it won't seem out of place to her.
While doing this maybe talk about how she's a good study partner, while looking into her eyes, maybe say it kind of seductively but not creepy.
While holding her hands and in the moment of heightened emotional states, pull her close to you and lean in for a kiss.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:57 pm 
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Ughh, Byron u keep missing the points I'm tryna make.

Before he "instigates" touching its best if he expresses sexuality verbally. And it's best if the sexuality is expressed verbally BEFORE he even gets her into a study session. THEN he can "instigate" touching.

I'm talking about things like statements of intent or qualification or both:

Statements of intent/introducing a little sexuality verbally:
"you're gonna have to stop being cute or I'm totally gonna start hitting on you"
"You should just run away now. I'm terrible in bed. It would be the worst 30 seconds of your life. I don't wanna do that to you :)"

Qualification:
"you totally seem like XYZ type of person to me. That awesome I love XYZ because of XYZ. I'm a little more attract to you now. God! Too bad your such a dork" etc...

Make sense?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:03 pm 
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However if she's only thinking of studying and he brings up sex (which isn't at all on her mind) this could potentially blow him out before he even get's her over to the house.
I am a proponent of kino escalating before any mention of sex (no matter how innocent it may seem.)
I'm not missing your points I'm simply disagreeing with you.
Some people probably teach differently and have different approaches.
I've seen some in field footage of this exact order of events. Open>Attraction>Kino>Seduction>Kiss close. And after seeing it performed by his students it really just seems like the best way to do it.

Although when I'm gaming and sex comes up, I use this line all the time, ""You should just run away now. I'm terrible in bed. It would be the worst 30 seconds of your life. I don't wanna do that to you." And i've been using it since before i've started gaming lol. So at least we agree on something!

Now if the OP knows this girl is interest and has already built that kind of rapport with her then awesome, i say turn the talks sexual but if he just brings it up out of the blue... he's in creep zone for sure!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:22 pm 
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Listen dude, here's the thing about those infield videos: THATS SHOW OFF GAME. THATS FLASHY "LOOK HOW QUICKLY I CAN GET A MAKEOUT" TYPE GAME. I'm trying to show you the type of game that actually gets you laid. Not a quick MAKEOUT and then the girl gets buyers remorse and feels weird for making out with you so quickly. I don't care about the infield footage you've seen. I'm talking from real experiences that I myself have had and my students have had and my friends have had.
Yes it is possible to go straight to touching but you are very often gonna get buyers remorse from the girl and she's gonna feel weird about it afterwards. Even if you push it all the way to sex, she'll most likely feel weird about it after sex an feel weird ever having sex with you again (unless she's a certain type of girl).

I know exactly what you are talking about and tht is one of the problems with the community right now. I've seen it soo many times. I've seen my friend (who thankfully finally stopped doing this) makeout with a girl within literally 1-2 minutes, maybe 5 minutes tops. BUT, just like clockwork, like 5-10 minutes later the girls would get all embarrassed and would end up running back to their friends. You are literally putting her ASD into overdrive by making out with her so quickly. So at the end of the night, I would go home with a girl and have fun and he would leave the bar by himself because he made out with the girl too quick. That's what the infield footage isn't showing you. They show you these guys getting quick makeouts cuz it looks cool, but unless you are about to fuck a really easy girl who is just straight up DTF, it will most likely backfire on you.

With statements of intent, you stay out of the "creep zone" by first innocently flirting with her then starting with a small not-so-threatening statement of intent and you build it up.


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Well we're all here to learn and share opinions, no need to get all puffy.
I never said make out btw... just kiss then back to studying, building attraction and comfort. This isn't about foreplay. Which you're right, leads to buyers remorse. But he can kiss and build comfort with her while studying.
But you're a pro, you have students... (see i can be a dick too!)


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:55 am 
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Listen dude, here's the thing about those infield videos: THATS SHOW OFF GAME. THATS FLASHY "LOOK HOW QUICKLY I CAN GET A MAKEOUT" TYPE GAME. I'm trying to show you the type of game that actually gets you laid. Not a quick MAKEOUT and then the girl gets buyers remorse and feels weird for making out with you so quickly. I don't care about the infield footage you've seen. I'm talking from real experiences that I myself have had and my students have had and my friends have had.
Yes it is possible to go straight to touching but you are very often gonna get buyers remorse from the girl and she's gonna feel weird about it afterwards. Even if you push it all the way to sex, she'll most likely feel weird about it after sex an feel weird ever having sex with you again (unless she's a certain type of girl).

I know exactly what you are talking about and tht is one of the problems with the community right now. I've seen it soo many times. I've seen my friend (who thankfully finally stopped doing this) makeout with a girl within literally 1-2 minutes, maybe 5 minutes tops. BUT, just like clockwork, like 5-10 minutes later the girls would get all embarrassed and would end up running back to their friends. You are literally putting her ASD into overdrive by making out with her so quickly. So at the end of the night, I would go home with a girl and have fun and he would leave the bar by himself because he made out with the girl too quick. That's what the infield footage isn't showing you. They show you these guys getting quick makeouts cuz it looks cool, but unless you are about to fuck a really easy girl who is just straight up DTF, it will most likely backfire on you.

With statements of intent, you stay out of the "creep zone" by first innocently flirting with her then starting with a small not-so-threatening statement of intent and you build it up.
i like this guy. this is actually very true. i made out with a girl within 30 seconds at the club last week, just for fun, no intention of taking her home. but afterwards, she just wasnt keen anymore and i never got another kiss or her number.

but thanks everyone for the posts, has been good help. im a pretty confident dude so im sure ill handle it, its just good to have feedback on the situation. cheers boys


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:52 am 
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I definitely recommend staying away from escalating things too fast as previously mentioned. I escalated wayyy to fast with this girl studying. Had her stay at my room because we were gonna be up late studying and didn't want her walking back in the dark. F closed, but there was definitely hard feelings of "buyers remorse" afterwards. Just build comfort and sexual tension during studying unless theres tons of that there already.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:37 pm 
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Agree. Making out with a girl (MAKING OUT) will cause buyers remorse 95% of the time. But CLOSED MOUTH KISSING can, stopping before it turns into making out, can increase attraction and allow you to build the comfort you need to avoid buyers remorse.
You guys know this... it's text book!
You're beating a straw man!


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