First Field Report- Opened a Few Sets



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:20 am 
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First field report ever, Nashville. First off I managed to meet a wing off the forum, and after talking today we decided WTF that we'd go out and just focus on opening to get over the whole approach anxiety that we both have.

As things picked up we moved to a new level of the club. My wing, Method, was fearless moving straight up to a three set, following the three second rule. He ran a few openers, and was able to grab their attention, but didn't eject well.

I then got pumped up and opened a 3 set (two 7's and an 8) as well, with an original line. Turns out it was my wing's 3 set from earlier. They all hooked and got involved immediately. I got to neg my target within a minute or so. Forgot to give the false time constraint. After a pretty successful open, I decided I would eject for the time being, saying I had to meet up with some friends.

Later opened, a two set (6 and 7.5) with the good approach, over the shoulder "I want your opinion on something. I can only stay a minute. Do you think its okay for my friend to breakup with someone with a text message?" My target engaged me first saying, "No." while the obstacle ignored me completely. Should I have negged the obstacle? I then continued with the thread. Should have started another but decided to eject because the obstacle was ignoring me and the target was very engaged. But she did give me some IOI's with her leaning in, and touching her hair.

Downfalls: Should have multithreaded better, should have been prepared to move to A2, and should have negged.

Live and Learn. Next time will be better.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:55 am 
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Give me some feedback guys? What I do if my target engages my opener but the obstacle is ignoring me? Do I neg the obstacle with something like, "Party is over here?"


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YOU (to obsticle): "WoW, you have an amazing energy about you, bet i could tell you alot about yourself with a simple test(or game)."

Obsticle: "Blah blah."

sit down next to her...(with the rare chance she says she wont do it, neg her for being anti social)

YOU: "I can only stay a min, dont want my friends to think i ditched them. Ok so this test is called (insert cold reading name here)...."

Perform a cold reading on here, you simaltaniously DHV while you DLV her, and you can toss some negs in for good measure...

If the target tries to interupt, or asks you to "do her" next...neg her too.

YOU: "Im not a dancing monkey here to entertain you."

YOU: "Tell you what though if you really wana play a game with me we will have to make a wager..."

Her: "Like what?" (you might not pause here and just go into next line)

YOU: "Yes its a simple game called 5 lies, you look like you might be good at it (wink, smile)..." then run 5 lies test on her

thats about all i got hope it helps

**edit** the wager is a drink bought by her if you win, or you buy if she wins...toss in were you see fit


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:40 pm 
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Thanks Ka, I'll remember to try that


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you are at a great start. i'll give you some feedback since a lot of people are lazy these days haha.

yea you know what, the best way to go out sarging is to pump yourself up before you even go. mad inner game will increase your chances of success from like 3% to 90%! depending on how good your game is. you need to be observant of what is really going on in the situations, when they shit test you, when you neg, when you have higher value.

be relaxed, shrugging is your best friend if you can't come up with anything to pass the shit test. alpha alpha alpha. be confident and secure with yourself. just be observant and you'll continue to learn with every set you open.


you should try to get away from canned openers, be more original, ask questions that you're really curious about asking and feel people might be interested in. don't think of it as a chore but try to get use to talking to everyone, and think of things to talk about everywhere you go... any situation you can think of. just talk talk talk, and make people love you for it.

being cocky/funny is a great start... keep it up, you'll find new "lines" that really just become part of your vocabulary. negs should become automatic, etc...

ok now for actual feedback on your performance, sorry if i got off topic haha.

uhmm when it comes to obsticles focus on them more, ACT slightly attracted or more interested in them rather than your target. you had a great situation because you already had the interest of your target, so you could completely ignore her from then on and she'll be glued to every word you say possible. you can simply say "so what do you think", and give great eye contact and body language.... you should get a great response. make sure to stack "routines"... tell more stories, ask more questions, get to know them... keep the conversation going as long as you can. try to save the supercommon "what do you do, where are you from, etc" questions for later.

if they start talking maybe you can talk about how things made them FEEL, rather than what happens next. mirroring is great to, just repeat the last word they said in a question form and they'll continue on with that. example

HB: "and then my friend was telling me to go to his house but we ended up going to the club."
PUA: "the club?" (or maybe "his house?")
HB: "yea and then at the club, we began dancing our asses off, until some fat guy approached us"
PUA: "fat guy?"
HB: "yea he was really weird, it got really annoying, blah blah blah"

you don't have to mirror but it can save you if you can't think of anything else... trust me, it'll get them to talk more and more and YOU get to choose what she talks about, that is the key. you could just as easily move on by saying "how did the fat guy make you feel? do you get nervous when you're approached like that?". or you can tell your own story "yea you know what was weird, one time i was at this party dancing with my friend until some very hot girl pushed her off and tried to dance on me. It was weird because I didn't find her attractive for being so snobby, are girls naturally competative like that?"

frame the questions to whatever topic you want, you need to be the leader and observant of what is going on. there may be a lot of information but it'll all come in time... just continue to go out have fun and take it slow... no rush... this is your whole life =)

good luck, happy sarging haha...

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 Post subject: Thanks Casual
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:28 pm 
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Casual, I appreciate the good and constructive feedback. So far this week I've been practicing stacking threads that I've come up with. I mainly went out last Saturday for a first time confidence boost. This Friday Night it's on like Donkey Kong baby! I'm going to practice stacking my threads with my wing before I go out too, good tip by the way.

Only 28,000 more days to live man!

J Smooth


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