I met this girl and we hit it off really well, she is definitely LTR material and we're taking it easy for now, but we see each other almost on a daily basis, so it's definitely going into the relationship direction. We've been seeing each other for about three weeks.
So we slept together, she got me off really good, like the best orgasm I ever had, I put in a lot of effort to return the favor but she didn't come. I did try, though. Ok, so we keep seeing eachother, we both said we consider eachother LTR material but we want to take it easy, which is fine with me. So the day before yesterday, she was at my place, I escalated into heavy petting, I can feel she's totally wet, her fucking jeans were like wet and I say let's go to the bedroom, she says not today, some other time blah blah, eventually she leaves and we didn't have sex, and I tell her: look at this (pointing to my pants), you're leaving me all wet blah blah, we laugh it off and so on. So yesterday, we're at her place, we weren't supposed to meet, but some things got cancelled and I ended up at her place really late at night, and we have sex, I do her first and she has a wonderful orgasm. Then she says she's tired and we should go to sleep. I was a little shocked she didn't even think about returning the favor, but I wanted to play it cool so I said: I'm counting the wet pants, it's strike 2 for you, with a cheeky smile, and add, but it's ok, last time was a blast, so I'm glad you had a good time today. I say I'm going home, cuz I wanna sleep in my bed tonight. We cuddle for a little while and I leave.

Is this a big deal that she was too tired to do me? I hear a lot of girls can be selfish in this way, but I always wanna return the favor, it just doesn't feel right to leave them hanging. Even if I'm not in the mood for sex, if my partner really wants it, I'll get them off and say, you can do me another day or whateva. So, I don't know what to think of this. One of my female friends says this is perfectly normal and she does it guys often if she doesn't feel like it, the other friend says to her it's unacceptable. What are your experiences with this?

yes, women are selfish that way.

most of them actually think that men are very simple sexual creatures who need (and deserve) nothing more than the ability to put it in her pussy.

it's been a while since i've been with a woman who instinctively knew how to take care of a man's needs.

and most of them i rock their world's so hard that they are beat when i'm done. i usually end up fucking their half-conscious, swollen-pussies while they pass in and out of consciousness. lol.

just the way it goes.

some know how to receive, but simply do not know how to give. they see the man as the sexual aggressor. so, when you were pleasing her, you were aggressing. so if you want pleasure, in her opinion, you will aggress, (basically roll her over and pound it).

but her lazy ass ain't moving, lol.

that's not to say there aren't sex fiends out there, i've been with some incredibly kinky and energetic girls in bed, it's about 20% of the population.

the rest, like fucking a corpse.

Maybe I should have mentioned I am a girl as well The update is she got me off yesterday, she went first, I went second, so we'll see how it goes when I go first the next time and see if she pulls that shit off again. But the thing about giving and receiving is completely true. I can notice not just in the pure sex part, but also when kissing or cuddling, women tend not to touch as much as men do. I touch her everywhere a lot more during foreplay, while she concentrates mostly on my head, face and back. On the other hand, maybe she just hasn't relaxed enough with me to unleash all her sexual energy Yesterday was really good, there was a good connection, good rhythm and I had a blast. She redeemed her self a little bit.
Thanks for the reply, Mack, I love reading your posts - they're always on the spot, and I like your style of writing.

Cheers!

Hey, didn't realize you were a chick, but yeah, I guess same rules apply. Some people are just downright selfish sexually. It's almost as if they just don't understand what a huge turnoff it is to have someone not care about your needs. To those of us who are really into it, it seems odd (almost foreign) as we tend to enjoy totally giving someone mind numbing orgasms.

I'd say both men and women can be lazy and miserable in bed, so I don't want to stereotype like I am bashing women. However, it is probably a little more socially acceptable for a woman to lay there like a board than it is for a man to do that.

PS - You guys need a hand? (or two) j/k, sorry can't help myself.

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I'm having the same problem it suck she comes soo quick it's just quick sex most of the time, Yestarday we must of done foreplay for about 3 hours because she wanted to wait for this sexy programme to come on then after we started she came within 5 mins. She's doing it all the time!!

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Thanks for the replies, guys. Well it happened again. This time I didn't care because I was too tired. We had a long talk about it the other day, which was good because we opened up on some sex subjects like fetishes and stuff. Up till now the sex was very much vanilla, but it seems now that she's as kinky as I am, the thought of which brings joy to my heart We'll see if she'll be more motivated to carry on when we get naughtier. Btw, Mack 2.0, I sent you a PM a while ago, but I sorted it out already, I hope I didn't bother you, but you did sayd you wanna give me a hand, hehe