So I've been reading through "The Game" by Neil Strauss and I've nearly gone through it all, and I must say, so far I've been pretty well petrified at some of the stuff that happens to these guys, particularly with Project Hollywood. Maybe there's a happy ending, I don't know, but at this point it seems like they're all doomed to eternal vanity and unhappiness. Especially Mystery who seems worse off psychologically than before he came into the game.

Are there any tips to use PU as a tool for the better, and not to let it dominate your life? Any tips to not veer off course like a lot of these guys did and go into a destructive lifestyle? Is it possible to maintain a spiritual and disciplined lifestyle, while also studying PU?

Right... so I just finished the book. Seems to me like the Game is toxic... why do people stay in it, then?

ok man heres my take. 'the game' is shit. you may be able to pick up a few girls with stories and lines, but the thing is these are all technices to make you look like the guy every girl wants. instead of pretending, BE that guy.

dont tell stories about some shit that never happened, go out and do stuff that makes you HV instead of just DHV. if your living that life your living a lie and that makes noone happy. go out and be the best you you can be. girls will see you are a guy that is worth being with and you wont need to bother with this PUA shit.

thats what im doing anyway, and it seems to be working. be the alpha male of your group, be the man.

People are going to conclude that they need whatever they need at whatever stage of life they're at. I've had some things I needed to prove to myself, or even occasionally to others, but those things tend to change and shift around over time. If you proved something, well hey, you proved it. So whaddya need to do, prove the same thing all over again? Probably not. Probably you move on to something else.

great topic! I believe that it is aboslutely necessary to STUDY life and become aware of our unconscious patterns and how our behaviors are influenced. When approached with conscious awareness and exploration of our-selves and our needs we can then choose the path that we want to, if that's approaching a bunch of women and trying to get their numbers or get laid, so be it

The reason the game ended in such a destructive way, is because these people haven't become aware of their destructive patterns and this way the patterns got control over them.
I personally think that a person who needs to spend all his time trying to fuck as many women as he can for the sake of validation, is not some one who I want to hand out with. But that's just me .

Ivan

A destructive lifestyle is one you live even knowing it isn't good for you. You choose it.

I'm on here and reading books for better understanding and helpful tips in the social/dating arena, that's it. I'm not a "pua" , never was, never will be, but I will deal with social/dating situations well and that adds to my life satisfaction.