Hey, im 24yo ....
Ive been with this girl for a month or so, kissed all around, but still no sex..she used to treat me VERY nice, always calling me, asking me out(I said no 2 times, it worked like a charm later)..

Last saturday I went out without her, with 4 girls and some friends, got really drunk and on sunday morning I WAS STILL FUCKING DRUNK, and she asked me where did I go, I spit everything out, after that, she stopped sms'in me, stop messaging me on msn and shit, changed completely.
On monday morning she had a surgery, but was still talking to me, but without all the good things, seemed like a 'male friend', wtf...
Today I sent her a very nice message(gay message, with miss and shit)
I WANT that 'punani' back ... haha
So, is that a simple game or I got fucked?Help me dudes..

What did you do when you were drunk that you told her about?

I just told her with whom I went out, 4 girls and 5 friends of mine(big mistake, but she doesnt know anyone), and where I "slept"... that is, I told her things she didnt really need to know, trying to be gay-sincere...

Well,this is dead in the water,man. Stop thinking about it. Move on.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

move on with life forget about her, she may or may not come back but at least you learned something I hope.

I read TheWolfMan yesterday and was quite sure of that, wasn't really caring about it anymore....

but then I learned something yesterday, when she texted me at 8pm, asking 'why did you ignore me all day long on msn, I deleted you already..'
I wasnt home, l left messenger opened, now she's talking to me again, asking where I was and shit...

and yesterday, I negged her a bit after I got home :


ME: here comes the rain
HB8: yea, just opened my window, and rainy saturdays is a valentine's thing, so I just closed right after.
ME: you sound misantropic
HB8: dictionary where are you..
ME: ..
HB8: No im nothing like that, I like people around.
ME: do you?
HB8: yeah, why?You think I have problems?
ME: yea.
HB8: can't believe..
ME: for real, I don't really think you are like that..
HB8: looks like we are making progress once again..
ME: thats what I wanteD
HB8:
HB8: kisses, good nite, going to sleep
ME: kiss
HB8: kisseeeeeeeees

Today we talked a lil bit
small but nice talk..
Told her I was going to study, so I left....just came back, conversation went kinda strange(on FB), but she's still apologizing for all the times she takes too long to respond(I was washing my hair and stuff; sounds like a shittest?).. then I ran out of things to say and said(I'm going to study, later..)

Whats next? More negging? C&F? I dont get it why am I running out of things to say, when that happens what should I do? The same I did?Run pretending I'm busy?

I don't even understand the full situation based off of your messages. If I understand correctly you are saying she isn't responding soon enough?

If that is really your quibble with this girl then she is in control of the relationship. You are the one waiting for the "call"(message). I know you got feelings for the girl but her world doesn't revolve around you. If she is getting surgery and other stuff how can you possibly take it personally if she doesn't get back to you?

Act as if people have other things to do besides message you for a moment. School(not sure), work, surgery, friends, family, etc. Time is a very limited thing, don't take her behavior personally, I am sure at some point she'll be ignoring someone else for you.

Just tossing things out there.

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well that inadvertently worked in your favor... neg her when appropriate not just because you FEEL she needs a neg just to keep conversation going. It is always good to pull the trigger first. If you think you may run out of something to say, tell her you are off to do something and to feel free to message you later. Or that you will get back to her soon (even if you know it won't be for awhile).

By "keeping busy" the girl will see that she is not on your number one priority and will strive to keep up. You don't want to make it seem like everything revolves around this girl (even if it does).

Yea thats what I do all the time, but she isnt complimenting me anymore, like she did before, I want her to come after me like she did before, wtf do I do, disappear for a couple of days?Im not texting her anymore, just FB messenger and some stupid 'how r u' irl..

so yesterday I got really pissed off and asked,

ME: Do you still want it?
H8: Did I say I dont?

haha

women are like this man, give her some time, some space, let she thinks she might lose you...

u said u turned her down twice (to go out) and it worked well right? shes doing the same, and from where I can see its working even better bro

if u like her give some time and dont be gay - show valeu, show that if someone will lose its her, otherwise she will snob u

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"Fuck it, lets do it"

give me her number so i can close her in one day

There is this situation that you have turned her out twice, if I'm not mistaken. It work well and I advice to go on with it. When you have gone chasing her, then it shows your neediness of her. This will make her the one with the upper hand, the one that can dictate each situation.

Give her space to breath, give her time to realize how important you are and she should not lose you.

I have experienced this kind of situation. I chased the girl and end up tired on bringing back what was lost (closeness, our relationship), and in the moment where we are back at being stranger, she took the effort to get me back.

Keep it cool man, when you are running out of what to say, then tell her you are up to do some stuff. I asked a female friend of mine about this kind of scenario, and she told me that: "You may never know, that girl is always left wondering what you got to be doing at those times", which means that she is plainly thinking of you.

Hope this helps, good luck!

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Every step across the bridge brings you closer to the other side. Some creak, some break, some are solid and give you the confidence boost to carry on.
She's just another step to the goal or she is the goal up to you!

its been explained many times on this forum "cat string theory", cats love playing with things but if it stops moving they stop pursuing it... You have to make it a challenge slowly pull that string towards you to keep them interested.

drill it into your mind that there is NO one perfect girl for you, do not believe because this girl "appears to be the perfect girl" that she is. For every pretty girl, there is a boyfriend who is tired putting up with her shit. They are dime a dozen and when you start gaming multiple pretty girls you will see just how true that statement is.

occupy your mind with other tasks while you aren't gaming, whether it be improving game emotionally, physically or otherwise. Girls HATE needy guys it doesn't matter how pretty you are, once a girl knows you are in her pocket she will treat you like a second class citizen