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Was it my poor response to the BF shit test that got me out of the game so early on this particular sarge?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:20 am 
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So I took my mother out to lunch and as we got in the car, I noticed an SUV pulling up with a drop-dead gorgeous blonde in the front. 10 / 10 most definitely. The best part is that her window is down and she is smiling at me. She looks ahead again as she parks and my mom made some comment about her. She looked back & I said "hold on I gotta do somethin." So I got out of my car, walked across the street, & then opened.

3 beach bum girls are in the car, which is immaculate & new. The 10 smiles at me the whole time I walk across the street. I assumed it was a rental car [spring break people stick out like a sore thumb down here in FL] and so I came up with a great opener.... "You girls don't look like you're from around her."

At this point the driver says they're from Vermont etc. etc... For some reason I didn't have anything really to say. I had NO approach anxiety whatsoever (she was smiling at me, body language tells me she wants me to talk to her). I just didn't have much to say except the normal BS. I did find out they were here till the end of the week. I figured if she wanted me to go, she would've said she's leaving tomorrow or something like that. Who knows...

Then I said "So you got a #?" and wing-girl (copilot) starts saying they all had BFs etc etc BS BS BS...

At this point I should have said "Well they can't be as cool as me because you didn't bring them down here with you. Let me show you where the best places here are...." or something clever like that. At this point I just gave up, not being rude & walking away quietly but saying with a big smile "Well you girls enjoy your vacation," or something along those lines.

I then walked back to my car with a big smile on my face. For some reason, I just approached a girl without any anxiety. For some reason, I was rejected. And for some reason, I was NOT upset about it at all. I felt great that I was the one she was checking out etc. Sure I was kicking myself when I thought of a few comebacks to that BF bullshit shit test hullabaloo, but I'm in the process of learning.

Most importantly, I can go sarging every day. Walking around in public, I'll eventually lock eyes with someone who wants me to talk to them. I'm loving the fact that I'm in the game and that I'm not a bystander anymore.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:01 pm 
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Nice dude. Good job for opening that set. You did like 80% of the work just approaching. I think you made a lot of mistakes and maybe some that you are not even mentioning.

1 - Got out of your car IN ORDER to talk to them - if you got out to go take a picture of something but "noticed" them on the way, that would be so much better.

2 - Situational opener forced you into a corner and made you run out of things to say. If you do an opnion one, the convo will go on a little longer.

3 - Your body position I'm pretty sure must have been bad - facing them, not over the shoulder, not rocking out.

4 - You didn't transition into DHV gambits ("normal BS" for you im pretty sure is the weather, their jobs etc. It should be about cold reading, energy, magic, whatever your style is)

5 - Kept lowering your value - asked for their # without them qualifying themselves for you (why do u need their #s when u got so many other girls in your life), told them you will show them a good time (bribe them. they should be dying to show u a good time),

But yea man good job. Most of the work was done for you just because you approached. I think if you have some canned material then you will be way better. No more "where are you guys from" or "what are your names"


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:09 am 
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Nice dude. Good job for opening that set. You did like 80% of the work just approaching. I think you made a lot of mistakes and maybe some that you are not even mentioning.

1 - Got out of your car IN ORDER to talk to them - if you got out to go take a picture of something but "noticed" them on the way, that would be so much better.

2 - Situational opener forced you into a corner and made you run out of things to say. If you do an opnion one, the convo will go on a little longer.

3 - Your body position I'm pretty sure must have been bad - facing them, not over the shoulder, not rocking out.

4 - You didn't transition into DHV gambits ("normal BS" for you im pretty sure is the weather, their jobs etc. It should be about cold reading, energy, magic, whatever your style is)

5 - Kept lowering your value - asked for their # without them qualifying themselves for you (why do u need their #s when u got so many other girls in your life), told them you will show them a good time (bribe them. they should be dying to show u a good time),

But yea man good job. Most of the work was done for you just because you approached. I think if you have some canned material then you will be way better. No more "where are you guys from" or "what are your names"
Thank's for the reply wolf. I'm definitely glad I approached because I learned a lot that I hadn't considered carefully enough when I did my own evaluation.

1) Yes I did get out of the car. I was just about to drive away though, and we already made eye contact 3 or 4 times, so I didn't really have a choice [situational yes, but I'd have been a fool to ignore her].

2) It most definitely did! I thought I was being smart by noticing stuff, but the opener itself didn't lead anywhere. I probably could've made it go somewhere, but this will be improved with practice. Definitely going to work on better openers to spark interesting conversations right off the bat. We're all the same as people. If someone walks up to me and starts talking about something boring, I leave. If someone comes up with an interesting conversation, these people usually end up being my friends. I think this is a great point, because an interesting opener will make for a lively conversation, naturally removing problem #3 since I"ll be fully engaged.

3) I definitely messed up with this. I kept leaning over to see the third person (back seat). Bad stuff, I know. Good thing to remember for anyone seated or in a car.

4 & 5) Both go hand and hand and help each other. That's my goal for this weekend, most definitely. I'm going to practice this part.

Opening is not my problem. I really didn't have any AA with these girls, and it's probably because they're perfect strangers. This is good, as most people in the world are perfect strangers.

Regardless, my game deteriorated with this bad opener, so I'll work on these points. Thanks wolf.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:17 pm 
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First of all, hats off that you approached them in front of your mother. This definitely takes some balls.

I totally disagree with Wolf's remarks. These are all the things a man will do who doesn't really believe in himself to make it appear that he has 'value'.

Be sincere, direct, unapologetic. This will get you further. If you try to make it look like as if it was 'accidental' they will pick that up and just think that you are a man who is afraid of admitting what he wants. Very unattractive.

Generally, just be relaxed, non-needy, spontaneous, direct. I guess you just got nervous here and they picked that up and then it was over. But keep doing what you're doing and in a few months this will go differently. It is true that a bit of teasing or making fun of them would probably go a long way here. But the key is to be relaxed, unapologetic and go for what you want.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:03 am 
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First of all, hats off that you approached them in front of your mother. This definitely takes some balls.

I totally disagree with Wolf's remarks. These are all the things a man will do who doesn't really believe in himself to make it appear that he has 'value'.

Be sincere, direct, unapologetic. This will get you further. If you try to make it look like as if it was 'accidental' they will pick that up and just think that you are a man who is afraid of admitting what he wants. Very unattractive.

Generally, just be relaxed, non-needy, spontaneous, direct. I guess you just got nervous here and they picked that up and then it was over. But keep doing what you're doing and in a few months this will go differently. It is true that a bit of teasing or making fun of them would probably go a long way here. But the key is to be relaxed, unapologetic and go for what you want.

I do think sincerity and an unapologetic attitude will go a long way. I have been and will continue to practice the natural game--hence "natural" means eventually it'll be natural to me. It's the whole "I'm the man!" attitude, and I'm appreciating the enormous self esteem lift it's giving me.

I agree with you on pretty much everything. I didn't feel any nervousness talking to them, though, so I don't know why my body language conveyed it. Perhaps I wasn't bringing up enough spontaneous conversation. Anyhow, I'm working on it. Thanks flowofsoma.


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