So this is the story. I hope you have patience to read it all. I need your help

There's this girl in my school whom I've gotten to know the last few months.
She is incredibly beautiful. It's almost hard to understand it.

When I just started gaming her, I negged alot and tried hard to show the willigness to walk away and that I'm not like all the other stupid AFC's who swarm around her and act like stupid little dogs.

It seemed to work because soon enough I started noticing IOI's (she even rubbed my shoulders once thanks to me almost not paying her any attention at all while the other dogs were giving her plenty). Very early on I got her number in a smooth way. I also kino'd her alot, of course.

Well, this gaming attitude continued for a couple of months. I took my opportunities when I got them, which wasn't that often. During these months my game, especially my inner game, improved.

I'm still very new to this.

Sometimes we texted eachother. I got to know her better through that. I know alot of people here don't like texting but I'm pretty confident in my text game, and I was able to build comfort and too later on use stuff we talked about in our text conversations.

By the way, we didn't have text convos more than maybe 3 times. But they were long convos. During one of these convos I made her laugh alot and she said she was really happy that she had met someone as interesting, cool and fun like me. When she told me this I had known her for about a week.

When I felt I had enough interest from her side I asked her to come and watch a movie at my place, a movie we hade talked about in our text's to eachother.

I think I waited too long before asking her out. I know I had enough IoI's to ask her out earlier. But eventually I did ask her out so no point in thinking about that.

We met up and went to my place. And man, how I studied on this site and others for that night. I learned so much in such a short amount of time, but I only used 3 routines other gamers had used.

Everything else just went smoothly, all natural. I was kind of suprised.
I wasn't even a little bit nervous. And there were no quiet awkward moments. We kept on talking all the way home to me.

We watched the movie and I sat close to her. Starting the kino from start.

After the movie we started talking, and we talked and we talked.

It all just went so smoothly. We talked for about 8-9 hours I think. I have a really hard time remembering when certain things happend because we talked so much.

But after some times I used the 5 lies game. I won it, and my price was that she would give me a kiss on each cheek.

I read somewhere on here that having her kiss your cheeks makes it easier for you, and her, to kiss on the lips.

Her lips, even though I only felt them against my cheeks, were amazing. She gave really sensual kisses. And she has really big well shaped lips.

I used a kino routine also after a while.

During the night I noticed a couple of IoI's from here. Touching of the hair for example. And I've learned from "Undercover Sex Signals" that IoI's are like the letters of the alphabet. The letters mean nothing alone, but together they create words.

And she gave me alot of words

I remember things like her telling me that she has told her friends about me.
She said it like this:

"Yeah so I told them that you did this, and that you did that. And I said to them to look at a text you sent me and after a while they would all say 'stop talking about him all the time already!'"

And she laughed, and I take that as an IoI if she's telling her friends about me till they say she's talking about me all the time. (I actually reminded myself right now that she introduced me to her best friend when she was visiting a while ago, I take that as an IoI aswell)

And I remember her saying that she often gets crushes on her friends, looked into my eyes and laughed like a little schoolgirl (which I guess she is) and continued talking about whatever she was saying.

She also told me that I was one of her favorite persons to be with, and one of the most interesting. I found that kinda surprising because that night was the first time she and I had spent time together alone. She is always surrounded by friends in school. I only remember one time when we were alone together for about 5 minutes.

So the vibe was nice. I had my music with every single genre you can imagine (really helped alot during the night with subjects to talk about)

After many hours talking about everything and getting to know eachother better, and after alot of kino. Lots of massage and stuff. Not only I giving her of course, both ways.

(She even said she wanted to give me a massage when I used my own little routine I guess you could call it now when I think about it, to get me to massage her. And one time when I decided to rest on my belly, she started giving me a back massage.)

She asked me about my love life. I didn't know if she asked this because of her not knowing what else to ask or if this is some sort of IoI?

Please tell me. Anyway, I told her. And I guess you guys know my love life even if i don't tell you only by posting on this site.

I always want to be honest, but I felt like telling her about my love life would be a DLV. I had DHV'D alot and as I said I always want to be honest, so I told he anyway about the pretty much non existent love life.

But I managed to make it more of a funny story than a DLV. Told her interesting facts about It and she laughed and stuff.

If you guys wanna know I'll tell you (but just the boring facts, not the way I saved it from being a DLV and making her laugh)
I had a girlfriend for 2 years when I was 11-13 and a girl for 4 days when I was 14. Nothings since then but LJBF-land and heartbreak (didn't tell her about that though)

Not much of a love life.

She then started telling me about her love life. And the more she told me the more I thought to myself

"oh no...no. NOOOOOOOOO. How the fuck am I supposed to get her after all of this shit?!"

Basicly, like all of her male friends had fallen in love with her and she didn't feel the same so that would ruin their friendship. She gets hit on all the time (even more than I assumed)
Her last 2 boyfriends were douchebags, and It didn't go well at all with them in the end.

She sometimes wishes she was a boy so this wouldn't happen as often. She feels bad about hurting others even though she can't do anything about it. She looks like she looks, and her personality is as beautiful as she is so it's a killer combination.

Quotes like "I prefer friendship over love" and "Love is always complicated no matter who you're with" and in a kinda joking manner "I ususally end up in a relationship this time of the year. I must be careful not to like anybody! or maybe i'll just hook up with a girl" (she's bi)

After all of this, and more. I find myself thinking "Im screwed."

But I had a goal for that night. The kiss close. After a while we lay down with our faces facing eachother. But I notice her not giving me alot of eye contact. She seems distracted or something. Maybe she didn't wanna remain eye contact because that usually leads to a kiss.

When we laid there I felt I needed to go for the kiss close.
I knew that It wasn't the smartest move after everything she just told me, but I felt like I was screwed anyway and I needed the practice.

I needed to be able to say to myself "At least you tried, instead of not knowing and letting that kill you slowly"

So I tried mysterys kiss close gambit. "Do you want to kiss me?"

She seemed like that was the last thing she thought I would say. She had kind of a worried look on her face, almost like "no, does this guy also like me more than a friend?"

She asked me what I meant. I said "I'm just wondering" maintaining eye contact. Never looking away. Relaxed face. She ask me again "what..do you mean?"

I think she wanted me to say "im in love with you" or something like that. Something to make her suspicions right. That however is not the case. I don't get one-itis anymore and I've kept my feelings under control for this girl.

She also says "you've already made me kiss you cheeks in a slick way"
Like she meant that I should be happy for being able to make her do that and be satisfied with that.

Then she started talking about something totally random and we continued talking for a while. And surprisingly enough, the vibe was still nice. It wasn't awkward.

We went to sleep after a while. I was a tad dissapointed, but more proud that I actually had the courage to take this girl home to me and ask her if she wanted to kiss me.

When I look back at my old self, he would never believe me if I told him that he would one day do what I did that night.

We coudle a little bit, not very intimate, when we sleep. She had to leave pretty early so she did and i hugged her goodbye and went back to sleep.

When I woke up I felt like I had truly fucked this up. The chance of her and me being something more than friends. But I was 100 % okay with that.

It felt great. I was dissapointed but like a said more proud of myself. And i felt that I had gained a lot of experience for the next girl.

This girl was the first i had taken home, and of such caliber! HB10!

But the story doesn't end here. She sent me a text later that evening. She asked me about the kiss thing. She was wondering why i wanted her to kiss me, was it just a spontanious idea or what was i thinking?

I answered that i didn't tell her to kiss me. No, I -asked- her if she wanted to kiss me and that it was just a sponatanious idea and I asked her if she felt uncomfortable.

She answered that it just suprised her and that it wasn't uncomfortable for her then she continued on with asking me what I was up to with a big smilie face.

We continued our chat a bit and then it ended with her saying goodbye and adding a heart for the first time.

The vibe of the text conversation and the 6 hour long chat we 2-3 days later had on fb (were I among other things, created a conspiricy theory between us two with nicknames for eachother like recommended) makes me think that I have not yet blew this.

After all she gave me alot of IOI's, it just seems like I have to game this girl slowly. She was comferatable with me and close to me. She laughed alot. We had a really good time.

But I fear that due to my lack of experience in this game, I will yet again become a citizen of the LJBF-land.

How do I game this girl from here?

Please help me out here guys!

GREAT STUFF BUDDY!
I think You've done really good job nearly all night.

Though when You asked her "Would You like to kiss me?" and she asked "Why/What" I'd say it again but really slowly like she's retarded or something (in a funny, playful way) "Would... You... like... to... kiss... me?" with the same expression on Your face You had. If You didn't hear definite "no" or if she'd started to just avoid eye contact all of sudden (but she's not moving away from you) then You go for it and show her some sweeeetttt LOOOVEEEE .
Also I think that when she got back to it next time You guys talked that means she wanted You to kiss her and she was regretting that You didn't.

Keep the intimacy, kino escalation and DON'T BE AFRAID TO PULL THE TRIGGER WHEN YOU'LL HAVE THE TIME WINDOW and I think you'll be save from LJBF zone.

Good Luck!
Mav-

my opinion dude .. yeah, to game this girl.. i think you gotta take it really slowly .. become her friend first.. try to establish ALOT of comfort and trust between the two of you.. (which from the information i gathered you already have) but as for HB10 you would realllly have to gain alot of comfort and trust... but yeah keep doing what your doing sounds fine to me.. you just got caught up in the wrong convo at the wrong time to go for kiss close which sucks because i was getting excited up until this.

unlucky but i think for her to brush it off as she did... she must really like you (friends) but im sure overtime you'll be able to escalate into something better.. dont rush dude patience is key.

But if he'll stall too long she might think he just doesn't want to take a move.
As Mystery says, picking up 9/10 isn't harder. It's just different.
So I disagree with saying "Wait 'cause for HB10 You need lots of comfort and trust."
The whole speech that friendship is better than love only shows that she has this belief that if things go intimate everything is going down the toilet. You need to show her (by actions, make her FEEL it) that You won't suddenly flip weird after makeout/sex.
My guess (and that's small bit of info I read from Sinn somewhere) would be, tell her a story how some of Your friends take sex too seriously and then they act weird when they sleep with someone. And imply that You're nothing like that. That You think that sex is just a normal "step" between two people who fancy each other.
She needs to know that You won't turn weird or leave shortly after.

Now that's my point of view.

Mav-

Thank you for your answers!

About the kissing thing. I've posted this on another forum like 2 guys like you mav, think that she wanted the kiss and was dissapointed.

I hope that is the case. But if that was/is the case, then why didn't she say "yes" when I asked her?

She, like she said, just seemed and thought it was unexpected. Since that incident i've tried to make her view me as more spontanious so when she thinks about that moment she'll think "he asked me that because he's spontanious"

But her not giving me any eye contact before I asked, and it really seemed like she was afraid that I was yet another one who had fallen for her when I did ask, make me doubt that she wanted the kiss.

But at the same time, she was given me a lot of IOI's and since after that time when we've met she's given me more IOI's.

A thing I forgot to mention

: I remembered another thing that I would assume is an IoI. She would during the conversation sometimes hint about her sexual experiences (not in detail or something like that)

For example when I said something about unprotected sex (don't misunderstand, I didn't bring up sex like some pervert, it was just a part of the thing i was talking about. Can't remember what though) she with a little smirk said "I've had alot of that"

And a few other things about sex. Like that she had some kind of protection in her arm or something which made it safe without a condom. In her fucking arm I didn't even know that was possible. But she took it out because it made her get mood fits.

I was unreactive to all of her sex talk, it was not an act or anything. I just didn't care enough to react in a stupid way.

Anyway, I find her saying those things proofs something. Am I right?

It's kinda confusing.

What do you guys think?

I'll be with her in 2 days with our school on a trip and I'll try out something a guy on another forum suggested. "Comfort kissing"

I didn't realize I made the kiss into such a big deal. But now I do, and I'll try comfort kissing.

Which is basicly just kissing her spontaniously and seeing how she reacts and calibrate after her reaction.

A way of getting into that spontanious kiss is to reward an IOI from her by saying "aah, how nice of you. You deserve a kiss"

And you go for it. But that raises the question. If she quickly after she hears that says "what? noo, don't kiss me" or moves her head away before I kiss her.

How do I respond?

Something like "Oh, you are so boring!" with a big smile?

Ah well. Thanks for the responses! Waiting for more. I really need your help and i appreciate it so much!

Thanks!

i would like to point out how many girls need to be kissed second time...

maybe it's a kind of shit test, but like pussy test... like they want to know that you have the balls and want them enough to try more than once...

maybe they just need five minutes to make their mind up...

maybe the werent thinking conscisously like that but suddenly were and liked it becuse they were thinking subconciously like that all the time...

anyways... amateur opinion... try kiss her... if she's still there but said no the first time, then chances are you are in... try keep the converstion the same (no oh why not etc whingy bullshit) and then nut it up and try kiss her again...

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She didn't say "yes" straightforward 'cause that would be showing too much interest for her. I'd treat her "Why?" as a "maybe" according to Mystery's Kiss Close Gambit. That's why I think You should've kissed her.

If she refuses comfort kiss (I assume that's a kiss on a cheek, forehead or head) then I'd say something like "Ohh, so You're one of the girls that need to date guy for a week before they kiss them . You're such a shy girl." and then make fun of that.

Don't get startled if she avoids first kiss attempt. It might be auto-response and she won't initiate it again, that's your job. If she refuses/moves away just act like it's no big deal. Do some short freeze out/roll off. I tested it once, was hanging around with a really shy girl. When I tried to kiss her (did Style's Evolution Phase Shift beforehand ) she just kinda "jumped" back and then kissed me on the cheek. I'd turn at her and told her that her perfumes turn me on. Then I checked my mail (I was in front of a PC), glanced back at her and said "Oh, and don't look at me like that. I can barely hold myself together.", then looked back at the screen. Couple seconds later she moved closer to "take a look at the screen" so then I turned again, as she was close to me, and tried to kiss her again. She moved away. So I acted like it's no big deal again. Looked at the screen and just said "I've no clue why are you so shy about this". Then she told me how she's unexperienced (she's a virgin and never had a boyfriend who escalated things) and then, about 30mins later, when I walked her to the bus stop I kissed her again and she was getting more comfortable with each of my attempt.

My point is, don't stop 'cause she rejected You the first time. It could be auto-response or she can test You about how will You react. Frankly, You'll have higher chances of kissing her on 2nd attempt than on first.

Good Luck,
Mav-

Thank you for your responses!
I will try to kiss her again.

Sadly the school trip thing didn't happen, she was too sick. I myself was sick as well, but not nearly as much as she was.

But I try to see everything in a positive way. We had a short text conversation. She was really dissapointed and had really been looking forward to this day.

Though I couldn't based of her text judge if she meant that she was dissapointed she couldn't be with me or that she couldn't go snowboarding.

I almost think she meant the activity more than me, because she usually does this activity on her free time.

But I do think she meant me too. But maybe not as much. Asking her what she meant would be to AFC so I didn't.

I just told her to rest and when she was healthy again we would figure out something to do. She said "Absolutely! and I will go snowboarding with you some day also "

I said "Yeah! I'm looking forward to it "

She said " Me too "

Btw, I'm glad I showed to text where I said that we would figure out something to do another day to a female friend of mine.

I felt it had a AFC vibe over it, and she agreed and corrected it into a more confident text.

Even though I'm dissapointed I see this as a positive thing. Gives me more time to read up on all of your tips and I had a gig late last night. If she wasn't sick I would go home directly after it and sleep. Instead I stayed a few hours gaming a HB9.

I plan on writing a new thread about this HB9 because she is of what i've heard an asexual person.

A area of game which havn't been discussed a lot. Be sure to look out for that thread in the future

One tiny comment on my side.
I wouldn't say "I'm looking forward to it too.". Girls sometimes say things like "I like You"/"I miss You" only to fish for it back.
More of a C&F response for it would be "I'm not surprised You are. I like my company too."
Same as if the girl would say to me "I like You" I'd reply with "Yeah, I like me too.". Hope You get what I mean .

It seems You're still on a right track. Keep going

Mav-

Well done mate. The psychology of HB10's and HB9's is strongly influenced by the amount of guys who hit on them every day. Your "do you want to kiss me?" was perfect and would have threw her entirely (You will have been the first to have told her that lol) Ask yourself this question to answer your own question: Do you honestly expect her for the first time in her life to escalate things to sex with you? Of course not it's the mans job, and the longer you hang about the closer you come to LJBF.

@Mav-: It was I first said I was looking forward to it, and she was the one who said "Me too "

Maybe you were just giving advice generally about such comments. I will think about that next time something like that happens. Cocky funny is always nice

@Melodical:
Yeah, I just wish I would've known what I know now so I could respond in the right way and then kiss her.

I will escalate further with her. A few days ago I woke up and I felt like "I don't give a fuck..I really don't"

That mindset might not be the most approriate for certain things, but with girls and not being afraid of rejection I think it's a good mindset

I really injoyed reading this post and I may be in the same predicament as you Yngve. I met up with a HB 10 at the mall number closed and have done a little bit of text game. From what I have texted her about she seems like the most down to earth HB10 I have every met. Basically she is a sweetheart and I don't want to mess this one up. Also since she is so hot she has alot of her guy friends hitting on her.

I am going to do a sepatate post on her. I found the advive her very helpful and I would love for you guys to shoot some of your knowledge in my experiance.

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I also posted this post here: http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showt ... hp?t=30870

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UPDATE TIME:

Yo! Been some weeks now. The fear of her interest in me decreasing thanks to small contact during the weeks she was sick was not needed.

She was just as happy as usual to see me Think it was 2 weeks ago now.

Don't remember everything in order but the general idea is that everything is going well. She kino's me and starts up the conversation when I don't say anything and pays most of her attention on me rather then on the rest of her group.

Today when I saw her, man did she light up! It seemed like she was extra happy. Might've been that I said that we probably wouldn't see eachother because my class started after lunch but I had to go to school earlier because of another thing.

So we hugged and talked a little bit. She always lights up that way when she sees me. I see that as a sign that I'm not in the friendzone yet.

Btw, her "straight but gayfriend" I mentioned in an earlier post. (not on this forum though, I'm copying and pasting this post from another forum) Since he found out she was at my place, man did he change the way he looks at me.

Not all the time though. More times he looks at me like he used to. He kindoff looks up to me, so I understand the times he looks at me with pure hate in his eyes.

Kind off "My homeboy is picking up the chick I like"

But he's always helped me with this girl even though he couldn't realize it. Me and him developed a touchy feely relationship which he often said HB10 couldn't be a part of.

Of course she wanted it even more and got annoyed at him when he didn't want me to hug her so she did it more often.

This was more in the beginning though, when her and my Kino wasn't developed a lot.

But havn't seen her to often though. But i'm increasing kino for each time.

But the thought of comfort kissing makes me extremely nervous. I want to give her a little kiss on the cheek, but when all of her friends are around her and when I don't know how she'll react it freaks me out.

I'll do it for sure. But I want to be under the rader from the friends. Because im kind of sneaky. I start talking to them, developed a friendship with everyone of them more or less, genuin friendships even though I started talking to them to get closer to HB10.

So I fear they will think I only talk to them to get closer to her.

Shouldn't care about that though. I know. But I wanna fly under the radar. But when I'm infront of her and I'm thinking about comfort kissing I get really nervous and it's hard thanks to the surroundings.


Reading through this whole thread gave me more motivation though Thanks everyone!

But more help needed

Cya!

(some responses from the guys on the other forum)
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Great response! Thank you, you guys make me realize what I'm doing wrong a lot quicker then if I would figure it out by myself

I started putting her on a pedestal. Wasn't the first time though
way back in december i started doing it but My interest almost dropped dead when i heard of a friend that she and her ex were fuck buddies

I didn't react so much though, which surprised me
instead of giving up i said to myself "well, soon she'll be sucking my dick so whatever"

kinda rude but it helped

i talked about that My interest almost died out when i heard that with à friebd Of mine who always have something Of value to say

he basicly said that guys feel betrayed by things like this even though they don't have a reason. A funny thing that atleast i agree with is that The feeling spells out The words "fucking whore" and you might find yourself thinking that for a split second

and that girls feel more betrayed by emotional betrayel

Ah whatever!

Ill make myself The price

One thing that make me wanna try harder is that i saw two couples infront Of me at The same time coudling and being cute

made me kinda jealous

another thing that i think Will raise My value is that à chick wants to take à photo of me because i have à strong personality (The theme) and hang it up in our school

its for à project she's asigned and i think it Will raise My value a lot

Btw! I have reason to believe tjat she no longer is a fb with her ex
sometime i Jan i noticed them not being friends on Facebook anymore and i've heard some other things

though they became friends again on Facebook à few weeks later

but one of her closer mentioned within The context that someone didn't treat her so well or something

i don't remember The cobersation clearly but i remember suspectibg her ex

yeah! Hope they not still fucking : o
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(A few days later)

Im so fucking mad and dissapointed at myself right now

i couldn't do it
had two splendid opportunities but i chickened out

i feel like shit!

I had the courage to ask if she wanted to kiss me but i don't have The courage to give her a little kiss on the cheek!

Im so dissapointed

i thought about what you guys said and it did help but i couldn't pull The trigger

and to add to this failure i just sat next to her without showing value

and i know she likes me! It wont be a big deal for her if i give her a peck on her cheek but it is for me!

Next time i wont fail though! I Will not allow myself to feel like such à failure again

and all those fucking beta males are always in The way!

Fuck..everytime i approach her she had 5-6 guys around her
at best for me only 1-2

My inner game is failing me for The first time since i started gaming

help me guys!

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(1-2 days after)

Been thinking about this. And sometimes it gives me a bad feeling, like "Maybe I won't get her"

But then I think of everything that has happend with her that is positive and it feels like "but she wants me!"

But sometimes I wonder how well I have progressed. I know that with myself I have done major improvments. With confidence and such. But with her I sometimes don't know if I have done enough.

But there are many things that say that I have done great. Like 95% of the times she sees me she shines up with a great big smile.

I havn't seen her do that with anybody else. Havn't really watched after if she's done it to somebody else though.

I know she likes talking to me, she creates new threads if I don't say anything. We have nice kino. Nice big long hugs.

(btw, just listened to Universe-Scars on broadway live clip. The singer starts of with saying "We're just a speck of fucking dust, inside a second speck of dust, inside a third speck of dust and so on...and so on...and so on" I think I will think of that to strengthen my inner game. Like if I get rejected it has no big affect on me or the universe)

But I sometimes don't know how she views me. Have I already fallen into the friendzone without even noticing? I personally don't believe so, because of everything that has happend.

But it seems hanging out with guys a lot and sleeping over at their place is nothing unusual for her.

When she was with me in my house she said she likes being with guys more than girls. If I remember correctly.

It does kinda annoy me. For example.

I stood with her and a couple of the guys that usually are around her. One of the guys that are closer to her as a friend than the others says to her that

"It's okay if you don't hang out with me during the weekend if it will be tight with time for your *something*"

She says: "no no! It's okay. I'll just go on sunday" or something like that

And he says something like "then you have to get a lot of sleep" or something, my memory is actually failing me right now.

And she says "haha it's okay. And we wont sleep! You know that! We'll just have to eat and drink better than the last time"

Something like that. And if I didn't know that what they to do is talk all night I would freak the fuck out xD

I didn't care much. But then after a while the guy starts talking about her being hard to wake up (i think)

I didn't pay all of my attention on her so I didn't catch what he started saying but when he started saying the she was all over him with her leg and arm when they where sleeping he couldn't do anything even if he wanted it got my attention.

And this guy when he tells a story he always overdo it so he she said something like "what?..well if that is so just move me to the side or something". My fucking memory sucks right now.

He then was like "but I can't when your all over me with your legs and arms"

And she says "but im not! you're lying"

and he says something like "but you're all like this" and shows it on me, pulling his arm and leg over me (we were standing though but I understood what he meant).

She looks at me with a very serious face and she says "He's lying" twice.

Like she really didn't want me to misinterpret anything. The whole thing pissed me of a little bit though so I said:

"Yeah, that reminds me of when I had this girl sleeping on my stomach. I couldn't move much" (True story.)

and I made a joke about it which made them all laugh. I said it 'cause I wanted to "counter attack" in some way.

I was kinda annoyed by the fact that she is gonna spend two days with him and that he claims she's all clingy when they sleep. But her serious face makes me believe she really doesn't want me to misinterpret.

But the fact that she hangs out a lot with this guys and another and sleeps over makes me kinda think that having her our at my place was nothing special for her.

Though I'm very confident i'm more fun to be with and because of my attempt of Mysterys Kiss Gambit I stood out.

But they talk all night. So did she and I. Things that seemed positive and nice seem less positive and nice when she does it with other guys.

It gives me the feeling that I'm just another guy that she likes hanging out with.

But at the same time I'm sure that she has not told the other guys the things she told me when she was her with me.

Remember that when she was at my place she had come from this guys place and she said that she didn't really want to go to him, but she forced herself to do it because he always is alone and she didn't want him to be that.

This post was very badly written. But I just needed to put this on text.

Saw the guy posting a status to FB now that makes me think that she left for the place she planned on going (most likely her hometown)

It says: "There really is no such thing as the loneliness you experience when going to bed the next day and realizing that you are alone."

I like the dude. He does seem alone so I understand her. But when he said the thing he said it felt like he said it so brag to the other AFC's around him and maybe show value towards me or something.

She told me when she was at my place that she feels that people want her for show, It annoys me.

She's not an object.

I'll keep you updated! I will not chicken out next time on the comfort kissing! I'll also post a field rapport about the Asexual chick later today!

Yesterday was the first time I saw her since that last time. When I reached down to hug her my body got positioned in a weird way so my lips touched her neck. Didn't stay with her much because I got my food at sat with my friends eating.

I saw her later again. She seemed happy and I started with light kino right away. She was with two friends and we all went to the place where a concert was about to start.

A school thing. Almost as quick as the concert started I felt an intense painful feeling in my lower back, my stomach started hurting and my testicals (my friend kicked me in the nuts the day before)

Why it all came all of a sudden and at such a bad timing when I planned to use the music as a way to build some intimate kino I don't know.

It sucked though. Eventually it hurt so much that I had to go down on my knees and just relax and breath. She standing next to me noticed that something was wrong and she asked me.

And I told her that my back really started to hurt but I didn't know why.

She asked me where and started giving me a massage as well as she could while we were standing.

This happened a few times during the show and one time I had another girl and a dude helping her.

3 people were massaging me, felt nice ^^

But I tried through the pain on kino escalating, and when we talked to eachother our faces were very close. I was closer than necessary to become more used to it.

Overall it was good. I kino'd a lot, but not as good as I could have. Missed some quite obvious things I could've done.

She left after the show and gave me a hug but I didn't kiss her on the cheek.

I wasn't as mad this time that I didn't give her a kiss on the cheek, but I don't know why I can't do it.

Today I had more time to spend with her, and I did. But even though we did spend a lot of time together today, I don't think it went well.

As usual the AFC's, or the dogs like I call them, was all around her. I tried not giving her attention when they did, like I had done before with good results.

But in retrospect I think I should've "saved" her. Just started talking to her and pull her away from them or something. Even though I know they would follow.

But today was not a good Inner Game day. I couldn't think of every nice thing that had happend, and all of your comments telling me she is into me.

I didn't feel that today. Even though when she saw me today she smiled and waved with big motions and she wanted me to sit next to her when I was in her classroom.

And I did, and I started kino and such. And we teased eachother a little bit. But I just couldn't get into the talkative state and be positive.

I was struggling in my head.

It was a math lesson but without the teacher so no trouble for me.
Her friend sat beside her like me and explained how she should do this and do that. And that ate up a lot of time.

I was a lot more quiet than I use to be during this time and I was in a bad mental state. She had earlier talked about a site she joined for finding chicks, and thanks to certain things it didn't seem as she really was trying to find a chick more just doing it for fun and sometimes not.

Confused me a little bit. And she talked about returning a jacket to a male friend of hers which she slept over at. And hearing all the time when she's sleeping at other places with guys it makes the time she slept her with me feel so less special.

She was scrolling through her messages to find a old text from this guy so she could text him about the jacket. I looked briefly, didn't really think about what I was looking at but I saw that she had som text's from her ex boyfriend.

Didn't care that much though. But it didn't help me recover from my bad mental state you know.

On our way home when I hugged her good bye, I didn't kiss her on the cheek.

I tried earlier to start a improvised routine to get to kiss her on the cheek, and doing so in front of all her friends and not making them think I was running som move on her. But something happend that made me abort that routine.

She hugged me and left. I continued the travel with one of her friends, the one i've talked about. The gay but straight friend.

He asked me how I was feeling

"I feel fine. How about you?"

"shit"

"You serious man?"

"yeah"

"What's up man?"

"Ah, I can't talk about it. I want to but I can't."

"oh okay. But let me guess. It's about women right?"

"haha yeah. They're all trouble"

"But what's up then man?"

"I want to say but she wouldn't want me to"

"Ah okay. It's chill"

He then answers a phone call and then says kind of mumbling

"She says she's been feeling like this for months but she waits to tell me this until now"

"Someone like you or what?" (I was hoping he would not say that HB10 had confessed to him or anything. Which would never happen, but I was in a weird mental state)

"You know this girl *name* She says she's in love with me, but I had to turn her down."

"oh thats blablablablablba"

"yeah, and she feels jealous when I'm with HB10"

"but you guys are only friends, why would she feel jealous?"

"yeah i know! but yeah there's something about her also"

"wait..you like hb10?"

*He stands up about to leave at the station we just arrived to*

"what? no, she's nice and all. But we're just friends. But she's...no I shouldn't say anything. She has made a good impression on you, I don't wanna ruin it. Cya later man"

And that last line. It really felt as he said that to in someway cockblock her/me.

She wanted me to feel there was something wrong with her=cockblockin her.

I'm very skeptical to that statement he put out.

I also got to know from HB10 that she would go home during the break so I'm glad I found that out before I asked her to come home to me or something like that again.

But it was mentally frustrating all day.

What the fuck should I do?