so i didn't read a lot of posts because there were so many of them, but i go to college and play this game where i try to make eye contact with people walking by; especially girls. It's actually a lot of fun to play. Some girls(especially asian ones) tend to look away really quickly, while really confident looking girls have on some occassions had like a stare down. It's really fun when you make eye contact with a girl and she starts pulling down her shirt and examining herself to make sure there's nothing wrong/out of order. It usually puts a smile on my face afterwards so by the time my next eye contact game begins i'm already smiling and laughing inwardly.

I just posted this advice on EC. Maybe in the wrong spot.. EC is EXTREMELY important but you have to learn how to us it effectively. -Rye

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I wouldn't consider what a-dubs posted as a game. I'd consider it everyday life. People make eye contact all the time, its a part of life. You can think of it as a game to motivate yourself to make eye contact, but in the end it is normal human instincts.

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i dont think so man. anybody can make eye contact with someone. doesnt mean shes interested. they probably goin to think ur a creep if u stare at them without even making an approach

To El Rey, it all depends on how it's done. You're not hiding in a tree watching her with binoculars, you're out in public on your way to something and because you received such beautiful eyes you're going to use them.
The main point about the game was intended to help people who feel uncomfortable making eye contact with a stranger. I don't see this as being something that will help you pick someone up but it's nonetheless a nice game to help you improve an important skill. If you can't keep eye contact with a stranger, how're you going to do it with a girl you want to have sex with.
I also mentioned that I play this game at college, because it's a good place to do it, but walking through a crowded bar and being able to make eye contact is vital. Normally if i go into a barlike setting i instantly just walk towards the other end of the venue and in doing so try to make eye contact with as many girls as possible. If you have a strong eye contact connection with a girl, she will probably remember you when you come around to open her set.

To El Rey, it all depends on how it's done. You're not hiding in a tree watching her with binoculars, you're out in public on your way to something and because you received such beautiful eyes you're going to use them.
The main point about the game was intended to help people who feel uncomfortable making eye contact with a stranger. I don't see this as being something that will help you pick someone up but it's nonetheless a nice game to help you improve an important skill. If you can't keep eye contact with a stranger, how're you going to do it with a girl you want to have sex with.
I also mentioned that I play this game at college, because it's a good place to do it, but walking through a crowded bar and being able to make eye contact is vital. Normally if i go into a barlike setting i instantly just walk towards the other end of the venue and in doing so try to make eye contact with as many girls as possible. If you have a strong eye contact connection with a girl, she will probably remember you when you come around to open her set.

agreed. if done right it's just being alpha. not really picking up though

Not true. Strong eye contact (upwards of 80%) is an extremely important part of being Alpha and being Alpha is the only way to be a PUA.

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being alpha is not picking up. being alpha and take action is picking up. that's all i ment to say.
just ec is not enough

EC is quite helpful. At the store today I saw a HB7 walking in the other direction and she was staring at me for a good 5 seconds and smiling so i stared back and smiled too. I wish my coward self would have used an opener on her : /

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lol "you kinda resemble a pornstar i know

not saying its a bad thing

because i'd fuck both of you"

imnotghetto,

Dude! That was a steel engraved invitation to open her and for you, anything you say is a start. "Great Weather" or even "Hi." Just don't expect anything and you can't be disappointed.

satyr, my apologies. One day I'll learn to comprehend fully what it is that I'm reading.

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EC has to have made the biggest change in my game...just a few pointers I've found work great.

1-Keep your head up all the time! Train yourself to look at a high point on the wall in front of you.
2-When you see a HB look for EC when she is about 20 feet away(instead of just a few seconds away)
3-DON'T NOD!! I know it can be a hard habit to break but work on it...she will break contact if you nod 90% of the time

9's and 10's will be unresponsive at first that's why 20 feet is important...they are waiting for you to shy up. Keep your cool for 8 seconds or so and the stone cold will begin to glow with a the most genuine smiles you've ever seen...trust me they are glad when you don't cave!

When you get that smile OPEN! I usually start with a neg since I know there hooked. "Sup punk?" works great!

With these small changes to the origional EC Experiment I have gotten more like a 95% opening rate. Good Luck!

Holy shit, I nod all the time during small talk. It's a habit I have when I'm thinking of what to say, or my way letting the other person know I'm done talking.

I agree on this, but however, I hate making eye contact.

Hengman wrote: I know. I hated it at first too but then I realized that they expect it. It shows you have balls and that is what they want: a guy with balls. That's why the shit tests, why the bitch shields. They want to know you have the balls to handle them instead of the other way around. I was reading David D and suddenly realized that they throw shit tests at you because it makes you sexy when you don't wuss up and try to answer them and they want to be with a sexy guy.

Here is an experiment for you: Go into the field with no expectations except to learn. Force yourself to look every woman straight in the eye for as long as they are in sight and see how many look you straight in the eye and for how long. Once they notice you, allow a little time to pass. Enough time to think to yourself "I like you my friend" and then allow a big grin to slowly flood your face. After you realize that no woman is going to bitch slap you for looking her in the eye, it will come easily. And if one does have the nerve to say "What are you looking at?" just smile and say "You - and I'm not done yet." She'll follow you around for the rest of the day. By the way, when you get this down it feels great and you won't be able to stop making solid EC with every woman you meet. Just don't do it too much with guys. They will percieve it as threatening.

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