Hey, I just joined this site today and this is my first post so bear with me. Anyways, I've got a pretty good friend who has a habit lately when we go to parties of playing matchmaker and pushing random girls who I don't even know on me. Like he goes up and tells them to go talk to me or w/e, but he does it an a way where I'm always standing right there and it's really awkward because I'm within earshot and they don't have a chance to say no. They're not ugly or anything, but it's just really awkward. It always kind of annoyed me, but I always assumed he had good intentions until I started reading on this site. Now I'm under the impression that he's trying to AMOG me (that's the right term, right?) and lower my value by making it seem like I'm desperate (ie: I need a friend to get girls to talk with me). The only other reason I'd have to suspect this is because he's been trying unsuccessfully for a while now to get with a girl who used to be interested in me, so it might be a jealousy thing.

So basically, is my friend is trying to "AMOG" me and if so, what do I do about it? How should I respond to the situation when he does this, is there anything I can say or do to get my value back? Do I try and talk to him nicely and get him to stop, or do I try and AMOG him back? We've been good friends for a while and so I wouldn't want to lose his friendship over something so trivial, but it really pisses me off if he was trying to undermine me like that.

I guess I have been assuming he was lowering my value or whatever and I got some revenge last night, but now I'm feeling guilty and wondering if I'm the asshole, or he is. Last night we had a party at his house and afterward, me, him, and 2 girls (I'm trying to get one, he's going after the other [same girl who used to be interested in me]) stayed over at his house. The plan was for me and him to take the girls home in the morning, but I was really annoyed at him because he did the whole matchmaker routine like twice that night. So long story short, he woke up a few hours later and I had left and drove both girls home without him. He had been sleeping on the same couch with the girl he was after, and I could tell when he texted me he was mad but I played the innocent card and pretended I tried to leave without the girls but they woke up and wanted to come to.

he might think he is helping you, or that it is a funny joke. I would just tell him to stop.

About the whole Amog thing, if you imagine that he is a total stranger, then yes he is making himself out to be the power guy, and you the weak guy who needs charity.

If he really wanted to set you up he wouldn't do it that way. He would go to the girl, talk very positively about you, then waive you over to the conversation. Of course he may be socially awkward and have no fucking clue what he is doing.

He's normally very savy with the ladies, it wouldn't be that he doesn't know what he's doing. You've kinda confirmed in my own mind at least that he was being an ass. The only question I have is if it is a random person lowering my value like this, how do I respond to it? What should I do in that situation because if I pull the guy aside after and tell him to stop I've already lost my value and it seems if I just told him to stop in front of the girl it would lower my value even more. I guess what I'm saying is is there any witty response or way to make the AMOGer look like the weak one?

Hey. I live in Toronto and looking for other PUAs to go out with and meet women

Stop over thinking it.There are many reasons he could be doing this, if you are in a drought, or shy he may feel he is doing you a favor. He also may be using you to start a conversation. Just because he is "savvy with the ladies" doesn't mean he has any clue what he is doing to you. Most guys that are good with girls aren't good with guys, so he may just have no clue that it is annoying you. He may just be an ass.

I push some people I know quite a bit because they have to be pushed to come out of their shell, so it may be him trying to be helpful, sometimes you have to be an asshole to be helpful. I understand that and so I have been willing to be that asshole, if I know it is best for them(not me), I hate being an asshole but I do know the results it can bring with certain personalities.

You could play if off as a joke and straight say to him, "I am not going to stop dating your sister just because you introduce me to another girl". Just roll with it, let the girl know you don't take anything he says personally, it is just in his character to do things that make others feel uncomfortable. PLEASE Don't let him be in charge of how you feel whatever you do.

Personally if I was as uncomfortable as you seem to be I would just pull him aside and do the "yo bro, I really appreciate what you are trying to do, but it isn't my style." Basically let him know you aren't in need of his help. If worst comes to worst you use him in the exact same way, walk up to girls and do the same thing to him, but when you do it introduce him to ugly girls. It is an asshole move, but it is meant to teach a lesson, if he mentions that these girls were ugly and he introduced you to pretty ones tell him after a conversation they all felt ugly after you talked to them.

You seem to be taking this value thing far too seriously. Don't ever let someone give or take your inner value. The fact that you are letting this guy do this to you means that you need to work on yourself quite a bit. You need to build your confidence. You aren't even confident enough to tell this guy to get off your ass, just saying your asking a bunch of strangers how to tell your friend to step off your ass. That is what it truly comes down to, if your buddy is doing something you don't like you let him know, that is just how men operate.

Sorry to sound blunt but you seem to be pretty caught up in something that is relatively simple, when someone is annoying you it is always best to let them know. If that doesn't work you figure out a way to use it against him or just do the same thing to him. Reactions are all situational for me, I can't tell you how to react to a stranger, my character is different then yours but I can tell you that it is very important to not over react (which you seem to be doing). It is also very important not to be spineless, stand up for yourself, which you seem to be avoiding.

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Wow, maybe it was a lucky guess, but everything you said about me was true. I've been trying to work on my "inner game" over the last year or two but social anxiety and low self esteem has always been kind of an issue for me. I'm naturally kind of shy and a bit of a social recluse, it really took alcohol at the start of highschool for me to learn how to come out of my shell and to just relax with my friends and have a good time. I'm one of the more popular, confident people now, but when I was younger I was bullied a lot and my self esteem was at about 0 right through middle school. I had thought I was doing better at being confident over the last while but your reply and some things I've read on this site suggest that I've got a long way to go.

Partly lucky yes, some an analysis of what you said. You also came on this site to get better with girls, all point to a low amount of confidence. That is why most of us come here, we have that one commonality, we all want to learn to be better with girls, which usually means a lack of confidence. You also have the few who know what to do and are being good guys, but the majority of us are on here because we have low self esteem or came on here because we had low self esteem.

The description give of yourself is that he leads you follow, he talks to a girl and calls you over and you come over. You also didn't ask him to stop doing something you are obviously annoyed with showing you aren't standing up to him. Not to hard to gain a basic analysis out of what you wrote.

Just keep chugging along! You'll get better, your confidence will get great with practice.

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