So i took this HB8 out for a day 2. You should know that she's a relatively conservative girl. She drinks on occasion, but otherwise comes across as being more of a good girl. We went to a sporting event which is about an hour away from where we live (we're both in the same city). The drive up and back gave us plenty of time to talk and flirt, and the actual sporting event gave us a chance to just have fun together.

The drive up was smooth. Things went well with building more attraction. We get to the event and hold hands, kino esclate and so on. The game goes well, we're bothing having fun. As we leave the game in the crowd she's grabbing my hand (clearly indicating comfort and trust wanting me protect and be by her with all the people crowding her).

The drive back to our city at first is going great. We both agree it's still early and we can go find something else to do. The last 20-30 minutes of the drive home is what must have killed it for me. I recently discovered Vin DiCarlo's Objection Game so i was trying it out on this girl. I was trying to cover the social consequences aspect for hooking up. At first I told a story about when I was in high shool and I stole this cheerleader away from a football player and I felt so proud for it that I told everyone and as a result this much bigger than me guy wanted to kill me. I told her how I learned my lesson from that experience to always keep relationship stuff between just me and a girl. I told her one or two other stories which followed much of the same stuff and said "I'm a human vault when it comes to this stuff." I asked her if she was like that in relationships too, and she agreed, but didn't really offer much incite into the conversation about it. She starts to get oddly quiet through all of this and doesn't say much else for the rest of the date.

So we get back into town. I say, "how about we grab some beer(she apparently likes beer) and a movie and head back to my place." She says ok, then 15 seconds pass and she says "I'm tired, I really just want to go home." It was early, like 10:30 on a weekend and this really threw me off. I pushed it a little bit, but didn't want to seem dominearing so I said sure and drove back to her place.

As soon as we get out of the car she begins walking at a very hurried pace and stays about 5 feet in front of me all the way to her apartment door. She's talking through all of this, saying thanks and all and she had fun. We get to the door, she hurriedly unlocks it, gives me a half-assed hug side hug, and goes inside, leaving me outside the door wondering what the hell happened.

I agree that is strange and somewhat rude. She at least could have explained this odd behavior later. Anyway my guess is either.

1. She thought you were trying to get her drunk for sex (since you were talking about hooking up and your cheerleader story ect.)

2. Maybe some crisis came up with one of her girl friends or she really had to go pee or something? Who knows.

Haha, she had to go pee. Yes, it was definately strange. You may be on to something with me sharing a hookup story and then talking about getting alcohol. My intention was to cover the objection of social consequences involved with hooking up, but by talking about these things in a back to back fashion it may have come across as trying to basically say "let's hook up and not tell anyone."

Side note: the night after our date I shot her a text just saying that I never see her on facebook any more. No response, which from her is strange because she would always immediately respond with something. I must have struck a nerve. How should I handle this?

Update: so I called this girl up tonight and a guy answers the phone. I ask him if I can talk to this girl and he says she's not there right now. Clearly she was sitting right there and handed the phone off to her friend to deal with me.

Is there any coming back from this one or should I just chalk it up to screwing up and move on? If anyone has a delicate way of dealing with this in an attempt to salvage the situation, I'm all ears.

I wouldn't have sent that facebook message, it comes across as a little needy. The damage from that shouldn't be that big though since she's still not talking to you.

At this point I'd just move on, I hope that was your first call attempt since the date otherwise you'll creep her out if you keep calling and texting. I don't know what her deal is, if she doesn't have the decency be honest and tell you what happened or at least open up a discussion, she's not worth it. Imagine her as a gf or significant other, this is a preview of things to come. Just move on, you did your part by calling back once. It sucks and it's sad but I think that's your best shot. Maybe she'll come around in a few weeks.

Also the fact a dude answered the phone or was even there is a little sketchy, maybe she's seeing him?

Thanks for the response. Great advice.

Yea dude, u pretty much know what you did wrong. It is DEFINITELY a good idea to talk about sex stories, but they can't usually be back to back. They have to be thrown in nonchalantly. In my program with Sinn he taught us about telling sex stories to get over objections of why they might not want to have sex but your diagnosis "but by talking about these things in a back to back fashion it may have come across as trying to basically say "let's hook up and not tell anyone." " is exactly correct.

You could try calling like once more in a few days just for the hell of it to see what happens, but there is no magic way to fix this situation. Move on.

maybe she had a boyfriend stolen from her in the past ????

I generally try to avoid conversations that could be highly sensitive for some people. In fact, I am generally a nice guy and not looking to steal girls from other guys. but thats my spiritual path/choice.

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