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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:15 pm 
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Hitting on a chick in front of people sitting next to you(not friends) or around you. You can also tell that they're listening to every word you tell the chick.

-inside a bus
-waiting in line
-on a library table

A. the eavesdroppers saw you open her as stranger
B. they're looking at you Nclose or dropping an SOI

How has this worked for you guys? Did the chick reject you because of the people around her(again not her friends).


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:21 pm 
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I could never go direct when I knew strangers were listening. Hell I have trouble going direct even when no strangers are listening :D

I've gone indirect with strangers listening, it's kinda funny when you're negging and disqualifying yourself, you can imagine they're thinking wtf??


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If you act totally comfortable and make good eye contact so she looks just at you, what happens is the two of you get into a good conversation and the rest of the world melts away and you forget about it. If you act nervous and start looking around embarrassed, then so will she and she'll try and fuck off.

Don't allow it to be a reason to not approach. Just the other day I opened a girl on the tube and she said she had one stop to go so I just fucking went for it and told her she was fucking hot and I wanted to get to know her, so we scrambled for a n-close just as the stop was coming up. Afterwards I went back to sit with my friends, and I realised the entire row of seats opposite where she'd been sitting had watched our entire interaction and were all looking at each other giggling and looking over at me. Did I even notice them before? No. Did she? No.

That same day I'd seen a fucking hot girl shopping with her little brother of probably 13/14. I initially didn't open because I couldn't think of a funny opener that would diffuse the brother situation (i.e. I was OVERTHINKING and being a PUSSY). Luckily I actually saw them an hour or two later still shopping, so I fucking manned up and did the set just by opening her directly and ignoring the brother, then introducing myself to both and then just carrying on the interaction with the girl. It was FUCKING AWKWARD because the brother kept butting in and trying to get her to leave, but I stood my ground and saw how far I could get. Turned out she had a fucking kid already with some boyfriend, but you know what? I felt A LOT better for just doing a tricky looking set and trying my best. You only learn by pushing yourself outside your comfort zone, and now I have a better idea of how what to do next time.

If a girl looks SO FUCKING HOT your heart starts racing, or a set looks so FUCKING HARD your reaction is to turn and run - THAT'S the set you're gonna LEARN something from.

DO IT
DON'T BE A PUSSY!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:36 pm 
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great post blondguy. the zoning out the rest of the group once you and the target get going is so true.

also the "dont be a pussy" i remember telling myself that back in highschool when was scared of cute ladies lol. its a fantastic way to live life.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:54 pm 
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if the strangers are not her friends, and not your friends, strangers to both of you, then it really doesn't matter. Either do it or don't do it, but there is no rule you are breaking.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:13 pm 
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I think the best way is to just do it. Fail firs few sets and fail them badly and how do you know that you've fallen them badly? When you approach a girl with 30 people around and you embarrass yourself so much, that she tells you to fuck off and when you look up all those old laides around are nodding their head and saying, ''oh young man, why did you do that.'' :D (That's really EXTREME example)

After you do that so much, that when you fail BADLY and you just don't care anymore, you can say for damn sure, that you got over every and any social discomfort/social anxiety/AA/careing what people think of you/not being alpha/...

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Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying go around to a crowded place and insult girls just for you having fun. No when you do approach badly, and really everybody are looking in to you, look back at everyone, hold that eye contact and trust me no one'll come up to you and arrested you because you fucked up the worst thing that can happen is laughter for them and for YOU, cause if nothing else you tried and you've learned something ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:47 am 
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Is it good or bad to game when others are eavesdropping?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:15 am 
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Is it good or bad to game when others are eavesdropping?
I don't think its good or bad. I think its bad if you puss out just because some strangers are around.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:45 pm 
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Awesome post Blonde Guy.
I sometimes get off on other people listening, especially girls. You can then bounce over to them once the first girls gone and conversation goes so smooth. You can ask them what you could have done better and everything. Be as beta as you want because they've already seen you're the man.

Here's something that happened me a week or two ago:
There was a girl I was really into, but she had forgotten I even existed (I also hadn't left a great impression last time we spoke). I hadn't thought of her in years but upon seeing her I really wanted to catch up. This was difficult because her and the 2 friends she was with are all amateur dancers/actresses, who really do get treated like queens.
Didn't know how to open this, and I was nervous as fuck! I'm still inexperienced with groups, and I didn't know if she'd remember me half way in and it'd be weirder.
My heart beats like that and my mind goes blank but somehow I'm even more compelled to walk up. I'd been a bit cheeky all day so the cogs were already turning, and I had already seen my leverage...

I walk up to them acting cool but friendly and just said something like "hey guys, I know this is a bit random, right... but I need you to do me a favour..."
Just as I saw them about to ask I carried on, without giving them a chance and said "I need you to just pretend that we're friends for about... ... 6 seconds."
They looked a bit confused and one of them said something that I didn't catch. Just at that moment I turned and made eye-contact with a girl walking past us and smiled.
I looked at the initial 3 girls and just said "thank you, wait there and I'll come back with an ice-cream", turned and caught up with the girl who walked past, stopped her and went direct; "saw you walk past, we had a little bit of a moment back there, I wanted to come say hi".
Carried on that conversation for a few minutes, both of us laughed, got her number.

After she left, I went back to the initial 3 girls and thanked them. They were giggling away and calling me a player (jokingly). I just looked up at the girl I used to know and acted as if I had only noticed her then. Conversation was easy, friends with all of them now, got plans to go out together and maybe (probably not) visit mutual friends over in London.

Moral of the story? UTILIZE EVERYTHING!

PS I smoked doobie there, after work there, so apologies for that coming out like a short story.


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I've done the tube thing a few times, admittedly usually half drunk on the way home on a Friday / Saturday night when I'm feeling Captain Courageous but I've also done it during the day when my balls were feeling particularly large.

One day time I had the exact same response from people on the tube as blond guy - the doors to the tube shut and everyone was staring at me open mouthed or giggling. First thing into my head and out my mouth, ''How do you like those apples?'' as I held up my phone and busted a smile. Did the trick. A random girl got off the tube with her friend a few stops later and gave me a high-5. Corny but she's obviously loved it.

Who gives a fuck about other people listening, my usual hesitation is most probably because I'm going to start blushing if I get blown out and until I get that leakage under control it's not going to be an everyday thing with an audience. Then of course there's fucking ipods. Girls reading books are much easier.


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