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Bah foi mal cara.

I rushed through the whole thread and must have missed the fact that you speak portuguese hahaha

I didn't realize you had the situation under control.
I'm the opposite though, I'm more of a night game kinda guy...because I love to see
Brazilian HBs dancing at the clubs hahaha

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DAY 43: another cold approach.
Why so Facebook? Meeting Miss Sunset.

Context.
Let's go back in time. We are still on DAY 43 here, the afternoon. In a few hours, I'm seeing Little Miss Sunshine. But for now, I'm just going to the university to see my Italian friend. It was not a "game oriented" day since I had the party, but I set up some small goals for this part of the day.

Addressed issues.
- Difficulty to apply KINO on a cold approach.
- Difficulty to introduce myself.
- Difficulty to number close.

Strategy.
Same openers as usual: "direction" or "new in town" & French card. (Should I change?)

Goals.
- Approach at least a set.
- Apply KINO.
- Try the number close
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I joined my friend in front of the buiding of our faculty. We went to the university restaurant. Nothing special about that, except that the cashier was eye-fucking me. I maintain eye-contact. There was definitely a tension between us. I loved that. Not my type though. I'm now using that as an example of eye-fuck.

Here's the best part. I was walking back home when I saw a beautiful and young HB8,5. I took my earphones off and keep walking in her direction. I opened:
ME - Oi! Do you speak English?
HER - A little!
ME - Great, I just came from France and I'm a bit lost. Do you know where's the praça Panamericana?
She showed me (we were really close to the place) and I started to walk away... but then:
ME - you have a decent English, do you study at the university? (I tried to make her understand that I was not a total stranger)
I told her that I was studying there too. Introduced myself, shook hands and asked her what she was studying... She studies Sociology. At that moment, I started to speak about French sociologists but I stopped quickly (not fun at all). She told me she went to Paris this summer. I applied a KINO on her left arm and told her that was cool. I started to speak about that city "that I love" and "the Louvre" (that was before your post Kasabi :) ). She asked me where I lived, I told her and she answered that she lived near the "sunset parc" which is near my house. Basically, the "sunset parc" is a parc where you can admire the... sunset. I jumped on the occasion.
ME - Oh that's cool. I love photography, you shoud take me there so I can take some pictures (projecting myself with her).

Now, if you're sensitive, stop reading now... what's following hurts. I mean it.

I went for the close... but I don't know why... I said... that:
ME - Give me your name, I'll find you on Facebook and we'll go there.
I gave her my phone and asked her to put her name in it. Don't know what I've done that exactly... I must have thought about the other Brazilian I've opened and asked for my Facebook. She was so cute, her eyes were abolutely wonderful.
HER - you'll write me? (Damn, that was cute.)
I told her yes and forget about the number since she was eager to have news from me. MISTAKE. I kissed her good bye the French way, obviously.

At that moment, I was thinking: "damn she is so waiting for me to have add her on Facebook"... What I should have thought: "damn, she wants my number". So yeah, guys... she was the most beautiful girl I've ever approached... I had a damn date all prepared (watching sunset with her) but in the end I've only got her name. Hard to read? It is actually hard to write.

I looked on Facebook and find her profile... but I don't even know if she's the one. i can't figure that out with the profile picture. Anyway, I added her yesterday and still have no news.

Results.
Approached a girl and got her name for Facebook close.

I'm calling her Miss Sunset. I hope she'll accept my friend request soon.
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On the strategy.
The opener is easy and it works. I can still make it a bit better:
- Pronounce "France" like in French when speaking in Portuguese or English.
I should improve the closing part: "let's go to ____", "you'll take me to ____" and ask for contact information ALWAYS.

On the game.
- I'm capable of approaching and starting a conversation quite easily.
- I'm can create a sexual tension with my eye-contact.
- I should ALWAYS take the number.
- Stop Facebook closes.

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Daniel, You know what the best part of slow and steady progress is? THE STEADY PROGRESS!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EYE-FUCKING!

Keep it up, you're an inspiration braw, :twisted: good thing everyone isn't as diligent as you, there would be no girls left!


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HI! Daniel,

You really are doing great.
You have come alone quite well and you being french , brazil seems to suit you :).

Now you have a sunshine and sunset ;).
You inspired me to start my own journey and even i am improving in all area of my life thanks to it.

Your suggestion on my journal would be welcome.
Happy Sarging mate.


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Hey Daniel!

Too bad about the botched name/number thing, beauty is distracting, is it not?

"Life isn't fair, but that's a good thing"

Lucky for you, sunset parc is near your place and hers, so all is not lost, perhaps she wanders the parc longingly looking for men wearing scarves with cameras in their hands? Perhaps not :) Don't fret, you will be suprised how, when one begins to generate his OWN luck, the universe reciprocates, and your luck will infinitly grow from both the in and the out. There will be more chances, many more chances!

I hope more people read this thread Daniel, If I would have had something like this when I began, I feel the process would have been expiediated immensly. You're doing everyone a lot of good out there, helping both yourself and them at the same time. I am truly amazed at your diligence in keeping the journal, keeping true to the process and I am imagining, remaining studious at the same time. Your character is deserving of what you are achieving. I am learning a lot from your process, and I (we all) appreciate how open you are to advice. Perhaps, someday soon, the advice will flow both directions from your user account!

For anyone out there who finds inspiration in Daniel's adventure, use it, the facts are here, IT IS DAMN EASY :)


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HI! Daniel,

You really are doing great.
You have come alone quite well and you being french , brazil seems to suit you Smile.

Now you have a sunshine and sunset Wink.
You inspired me to start my own journey and even i am improving in all area of my life thanks to it.

Your suggestion on my journal would be welcome.
Happy Sarging mate.
@Illusionist.
I truly appreciate your support. I'm learning some stuff right now indeed! I'm really happy about it.
Yet, I don't feel like I have Little Miss Sunshine, she is clearly not investing time in me so I won't do it with her. Maybe later, I'll have an opportunity to actually demonstrate my value to her and get her chasing me more.
Same for Miss Sunset. She was beautiful man. But I have nothing here... Still no news in Facebook.
In the end I don't have much unfortunately. But I did learn a lot from these experiences.

I've been so busy lately that I did not manage to have time to follow all the journals out there. I know you had a first #-close recently. I'll find time to follow your journey as well.
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Hey Daniel!

Too bad about the botched name/number thing, beauty is distracting, is it not?

"Life isn't fair, but that's a good thing"

Lucky for you, sunset parc is near your place and hers, so all is not lost, perhaps she wanders the parc longingly looking for men wearing scarves with cameras in their hands? Perhaps not Smile Don't fret, you will be suprised how, when one begins to generate his OWN luck, the universe reciprocates, and your luck will infinitly grow from both the in and the out. There will be more chances, many more chances!

I hope more people read this thread Daniel, If I would have had something like this when I began, I feel the process would have been expiediated immensly. You're doing everyone a lot of good out there, helping both yourself and them at the same time. I am truly amazed at your diligence in keeping the journal, keeping true to the process and I am imagining, remaining studious at the same time. Your character is deserving of what you are achieving. I am learning a lot from your process, and I (we all) appreciate how open you are to advice. Perhaps, someday soon, the advice will flow both directions from your user account!

For anyone out there who finds inspiration in Daniel's adventure, use it, the facts are here, IT IS DAMN EASY Smile
@Insert.
She was amazing... I'm not gonna lie, I feel a bit sad about all this but well... there is plenty of girls out there. Maybe I'll see her again. I wish it.
Insert, you're really touching me man. The community has helped me a lot, and I'm really looking forward to give it back. I hope all the newbies like me out there are inspired by my modest journey. I'm sure a lot of them could do it 100x faster and better than I'm doing right now.

About my determination.
You can call it determination or diligence... I don't know where it comes from. I just know one thing: I've had the "nice guy" syndrom for a long time. I used to believe that I would stumble upon the "one", that she would love me, I would love her... we would learn to know each other, have sex... you know the story. But nothing is like that. NOTHING. We are not in a CLEAN Disney movie. I used to expect from girls a clean past, at least as clean as I have. I used to judge them when some of them were drunk, or have one night stands or kissed that ugly guy... I was a damn AFC: "I'm too good for that shit".
With the end of my past relationship, I realized that everything around me was a damn JOKE, and the joke was on me (and all the AFC). I have been lying to myself for 23 years. It was time to be a man and accept how MISERABLE we all are in the end. We are all lost and yet looking for the same thing, struggling with our inner self, with our fears, our frustrations... All happened to be very clear to me. How could I keep believing in such a joke?

That's how I became AFC Daniel, that's how my journey from AFC to PUA began. When everything around you is a damn joke, the only way not to be the one the joke is on, is to actually become the joker, the comedian. PUAs are the comedians of that huge play on human condition: they know the script.
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Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the Comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Edward Blake - Watchmen.
Determination? When you see the truth, you have to make a choice... you can keep lying to yourself, or you can change. You can either stay the one the joke is on, or you can become the Comedian. You can stay in the Matrix, or get unplugged. (any other movie guys?)

I just had the courage to change, but it's too early to tell if the change is going to last.

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"too early to tell if the change is going to last"

Change is change, it is dynamic, your willingness to overcome adversity is what needs to last!
There isnt two states, the "chump" and "player", there is only the dynamic and static.
Should you ever find yourself bathing in money, or drowning in a sea of women(should that be your desire), will you cease to be dynamic? to try and better your self? I certainly hope not. Adversly, should you be met with strong resistance, an epic failure, will you cease to progress?

So much of what men do in pursuit of becoming better with women leads us to find our core faults. Inner "game" is something we should already possess. In our present world, this masculinity has been lost in translation somewhere between the commerce, greed or self infatuation. Maybe it is too EASY to be a chump at a young age, and we never find a need to grow up. I don't claim to know the reasons.

...What is my point again? Does anyone out there need a hug?...:)

MY POINT IS DANIEL,
Infantine as all of our success may be, it will always remain success as long as we strive to remain dynamic, to roll with the puches. There is no existential joke playing out(altho I like how you use the analogy to inspire positive behaviour), cleverly tricking us into following a path of development that will lead to frustration. In my opinion, the path to success is right in front of all of us, we just allow fear, pain and ignorance to keep us from following it.

...Anyways...go fuck some ho's!


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"too early to tell if the change is going to last"

Change is change, it is dynamic, your willingness to overcome adversity is what needs to last!
There isnt two states, the "chump" and "player", there is only the dynamic and static.
Should you ever find yourself bathing in money, or drowning in a sea of women(should that be your desire), will you cease to be dynamic? to try and better your self? I certainly hope not. Adversly, should you be met with strong resistance, an epic failure, will you cease to progress?

So much of what men do in pursuit of becoming better with women leads us to find our core faults. Inner "game" is something we should already possess. In our present world, this masculinity has been lost in translation somewhere between the commerce, greed or self infatuation. Maybe it is too EASY to be a chump at a young age, and we never find a need to grow up. I don't claim to know the reasons.

...What is my point again? Does anyone out there need a hug?...:)

MY POINT IS DANIEL,
Infantine as all of our success may be, it will always remain success as long as we strive to remain dynamic, to roll with the puches. There is no existential joke playing out(altho I like how you use the analogy to inspire positive behaviour), cleverly tricking us into following a path of development that will lead to frustration. In my opinion, the path to success is right in front of all of us, we just allow fear, pain and ignorance to keep us from following it.

...Anyways...go fuck some ho's!
I do not think there's a giant joke on us... I used it as an image as you understood it. I just wanted to explain my determination by how I got into the Game. That was also to explain my avatar. But I do think that once you aware of your AFCness, you have to take action and commit! :)

You're right, change is change but I still have to be vigilant about the comfort zone. I mean, sometimes it only takes to fall in love or end in a LTR to get you back to some old AFC habits!

May that not happen.

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Quick update.

I've been out today for my first class. It was boring, I've learned nothing but I spent some time with some guys in order to build a circle of friends.

I also approached a girl today but it was not good. I asked for direction but I messed up with the opener. She gave me the info, I ejected. Too much in my mind lately. Meditation is getting harder, don't know why. I have to stay vigilant about that.

I'm also more and more thinking about the opportunities I've missed: the bus girl, the other bus girl that wanted my number (easy lay) and Miss Sunset. I'm a bit mad about myself. I get so satisfied about the interaction that I don't even finish the work. If I want to get somewhere, I have to get my hands dirty and stop pussying around.

Fun, that the word Kasabi and others have been throwing to me. Am I fun enough? I have to say I like to have control. I would have not been where I am without that discipline. But this seems to play against me now. I should be crazier, ballsier and just do what I want to do. I have to learn how to let myself go.

I'm going to a party tonight with the other exchange students. I'll even see two guys that I know from my school in France. It can be an occasion to DHV a bit. I'll have fun, but truth is I don't really know what to do with the girls... KINOing them should be good. Teasing also.

I'm also going to a club tomorrow to see Armin Van Buuren. The DJ is in São Paulo and some friends offered me to go there. The club is near where I live. This is another opportunity to let myself go a little.

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Hey man! ur a great inspiration and I read your posts all the time, but i noticed one thing, i barely ever see a convo that u have where u neg the target. Like with Miss Sunset you could have thrown a couple of playful negs in there. Idk what do u think about negs? Also, don't beat youself up about not getting her number, theres always gonna be another girl.

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Hey man! ur a great inspiration and I read your posts all the time, but i noticed one thing, i barely ever see a convo that u have where u neg the target. Like with Miss Sunset you could have thrown a couple of playful negs in there. Idk what do u think about negs? Also, don't beat youself up about not getting her number, theres always gonna be another girl.
Well, being on day game allows you to take the girls by surprise so I don't really feel like I should neg them to get them off their pedestal. I would use more negs for night game since girls expect to be approached. But maybe I should do it in Day Game. Do you think that will prevent me from flakes?

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Hi Daniel,

Good luck with the meditating... It's important to turn those negative emotional cycles we can easily find ourselves into positive ones.

Funny, but you don't realise how much FUCKING effort it takes to just empty the mind even for five minutes... What I tend to do is light a candle in the morning and just stare at it for five minutes in a state of heightened awareness.

OK, your approach game all very good and coming along nicely...

I think you're ready for a bit of Gunwitch Method. This helped my game tremendously, to help me think of girls in a sexual manner. If you really want to give this a great shot, don't look at porn for three weeks and start lifting heavy weights.

http://puarticles.informe.com/gunwitch- ... -dt72.html

If you're struggling with being a little more 'Risky' so to speak, give this one a try.

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DAY 44: some night game.
Am I funny?

Context.
I was invited to a party tonight. A lot of exchange students and Brazilians were expected to come. I have already made some friends and I wanted to enjoy the party. That was a really good opportunity for a bit of night game.

Addressed issues.
- Difficulty to let myself go.
- Difficulty in night game.
- Difficulty ro number close.
- Unability to kiss close.

Strategy.
- KINO!
- Be funny.

Goals.
- Enjoy the party.
- Meet new people.
- Try a number close
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Beginning of the party.
Not many people were here when I arrived. There was a lot of French guys though. I did not know anybody. I started to introduce myself and talk with them. Basic chat, nothing interesting: where you from? bla bla. There was also a Dutch guy who is an exchange student but the guy does not like me obviously. I noticed is was usually reluctant to say hello. Never really spoke to him though. I just don't care that much. But he is alpha... I can feel it, he's cool, he's enjoying himself, he's good looking... I could learn a lot from him.

Anyway, two French girls arrived at the party. I started to talk to them. I did not game at all since they were not potential targets. But it was good to be social. Later on, two guys from my school in France (but not studying in the same university here) arrived at the party. They were happy to see me and allowed me to DHV a little. They introduced me to another Daniel... the guy got game. I'll come to that later. I spoke with some groups but did not manage to go from one group to another.

The party was in.
At some point, I was just listenning to a conversation without even participating. I was not really having fun, or at least, I was not looking like it. People were drinking, smoking, laughing, screaming... I was just tired.

The party was full now. Brazilians and exchange students everywhere. A Colombian HB8 arrived, I knew her from the integration day. At some point I approached the group and started to talk to her. I did not say much... I mean, the conversation was boring as hell: I just asked her if she has had classes, how it was... I mean, I was not fun, clearly. Anyway, she told me that I have not added her on Facebook. I told her to give me her name and her number. So yeah, I number closed her but I don't know if I can do something with it... No attraction was built, I did KINO her a bit though.

Another Daniel.
Daniel. His name was Daniel too. The guy was good. I noticed he isolated a girl early in the party and stay talking to her. Most of the time, she was against a wall and they were chatting very close. The started to make out. Damn, I was seeing game in action: I choosed a target, isolated her, KINOed her and went for a damn kiss close. He was French, good looking, nice (I actually liked him) but it was not AFC Daniel... The guy was clearly good.

Cheering me up.
I was actually thinking that I should leave. I was not showing any game and I was tired, or at least had the excuse of being tired. But a Mexican buddy of mine cheered me up, he offered me a drink and introduced me to Colombian HB6. She was not my type but I started to do what I know: I was funny, maintained EC and KINOed her: arm, hug, claw... She wanted to go to the bathroom and asked me to hold her beer. I said I did not want to, I was kidding but it was a bit true. She looked at me and I started to smile: "I was kidding". She went to the bathroom, I hold the damn beer AFC style. I stayed with a shy Brazilian guy that was with us. He tried to engage the conversation with me but it was really boring.

Petite brunette.
Then it happens. The cutest petite brunette, a beautiful HB9 from Peru came to me. I already had her number and she is totally my type I confess. I do think she likes me actually. I tried to have a good body language and maintained eye-contact. We started to speak, general chat again but then we started to speak about music and reggaeton since she's from latin America. I sait that Reggaeton was hot and she answered that she went to a club and that she dropped her jaw seeing how hot the Brazilian "Funk" was. Told her that was because she was too shy. We spoke about other stuff and she started to compliment me for my Spanish... I took the opportunity to KINO her and hug her. She asked me how come I have such a good Spanish. Told her that I felt in love with a Spanish chick when I was 18. We spoke again for 10 minutes, I was alone with her. But a friend of her passed by and she left. End of the story.

I came back home little after. I just said good bye to 2 or 3 friends and left.

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About night game.
Damn, that's hard. Really. I'm so not into it. But I have to learn it. Let's face it... the reward in night game is so much higher than in day game. Unfortunately, I am a total AFC in night game for now: no dancing skills, not into the drunk/smoke thing, not enough balls, not funny at all... I dunno. Furthermore, I'm so bad with competition... I have a new whole area to work on here. It's gonna take some time for me to enjoy this.

About myself.
I do start to think that I'm a arrogant asshole. I'm really ashamed of saying that, I have the feeling that a part of me think that I'm actually better than other people. I'm a not truly interested in other people when I meet them, and I think they can feel it. I'm not a bad person... but yes, I'm judgmental... and when I don't like something... I just don't give a damn and don't speak at all. I've read this post from Chief it-all-starts-with-you-on-ego-and-givin ... 27019.html and it's clear to me that I only take value from people, I don't give any of it, or at least, only to the one I like. That explains a lot I think. I need to change that. That's maybe the hardest thing I had to confess in this journal. I'm really ashamed of that part of me, but I do think it's here somewhere.

About the strategy.
Strategy? What strategy? I've KINOed two girls tonight. I don't even know if I succeeded in building attraction.

About the Game.
- Competition is hard. I really loose my confidence because of that.
- Night game is tiring... I was exhausted last night, that's the kind of things that kill my game.
- I can't help: I'm pussying around. I should be more ballsy and go for the kiss close...
- I need to be more fun! I have to learn how to let myself go! Maybe I should be more scripted and go for palm-reading kind of game, and routine the hell out of me.
- I need to be truly interested in everyone.

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You shoulda gotten the number of that Peru chick boi, and maybe you can ask Daniel's too...no not to take him for a date, but maybe go sarging with him maybe he knows PUA.

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