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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:52 am 
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I'm starting to wonder...got some insane 9.1/10 score from 68 votes on HotOrNot. I also get IOIs from women everywhere I go. How does one accurately assess if one is a Natural?

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If you found this forum you are probably not a natural. Just read a bunch of shit and if you find yourself thinking "oh that's why what I do works" then you probably are a natural.

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Being a natural has nothing to do with how attractive you are. It's being able to successfully seduce women consistently simply by reacting without thinking to what they do and say, leading well, escalating smoothly, and being completely congruent, comfortable and confident. It's not so much getting those initial signs of interest, it's what you DO once you see them, and how you move things forward that matters.

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Getting high ratings on a picture of you, has nothing to do with how well your game is. If you are a natural, you will naturally know it.


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Really? HotOrNot.com? Go back from whence you came, toddler.


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Also, PUA's, Sean has admitted to me that he is a virgin. He is disturbed and in need of psychiatric help.


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Thanks for the replies. Please ignore the troll.

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Also, PUA's, Sean has admitted to me that he is a virgin. He is disturbed and in need of psychiatric help.
this isn't algebra, bro. two negatives don't make a positive in real life. Quit being a dick if you know the guy needs a hand.

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LOL good looking people don't naturally get a lot of tale. Otherwise a fair amount more of us wouldn't have needed to get into this. Just because you have a low success rate doesn't at all mean you are ugly, likewise, just because you are very attractive doesn't mean you have a high success rate.

While looks are a great addition they don't get you laid, you have to take the right action to make sure that takes place.

Stop relying on your looks and try actually following the process and you will do a lot better with girls.

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Disregard looks, acquire game.

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Also, PUA's, Sean has admitted to me that he is a virgin. He is disturbed and in need of psychiatric help.
this isn't algebra, bro. two negatives don't make a positive in real life. Quit being a dick if you know the guy needs a hand.
No duh, but he's fooking around cockblocking

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hotornot should never ever ever be taking seriously, post a picture of a really gorgeous model and they'll come up with 7.5, yet post a picture of a fat guy in nice clothes and they can come up 9.7+


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I once did a "photoshop version" of a crazy ugly girl i found on google. She ended up on the top 20 list in a swedish version of HotOrNot

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I'm starting to wonder...got some insane 9.1/10 score from 68 votes on HotOrNot. I also get IOIs from women everywhere I go. How does one accurately assess if one is a Natural
Because you'd already know it and be here upset about how girls virtually always start doing AFC things and will not stop.

IOIs are overrated. You can walk well and dress well and get lots of that. You can have just gotten laid 10 minutes ago and get lots of IOIs. You could be wearing a hat that just became the rage yesterday and get lots of IOIs. Overall & consistent (or escalating) behaviors are 100x better than a few IOIs. She could even just be ovulating, single, and ready to rumble! I can see where IOIs *could possibly* be slightly useful for a guy who NEVER gets them and then gradually starts to see more and more. That would be some good feedback (maybe).

Go look at an AFC list.....those are the behaviors naturals see constantly because AFC traits are actually extremely attracted female traits. There are relatively few really natural men around vs the huge number of higher quality women so women get pretty damned desperate when they run into a natural. It might be the only chance she's had a shot at one in months.

See that HB10 at the club every Friday night there all night with 12+ men hanging around her....SHE DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE A SHOT AT A NATURAL BECAUSE IF SHE DID SHE'D BE AFCingly CHASING HIM. And, it's highly likely that part of why she doesn't have a shot is because the more observant/perceptive naturals probably see a bunch of childish traits that aren't on their Want List. Or, it's the fact that naturals live in overwhelming abundance so one will get around to her at his leisure.

Naturals usually come to forums, purchase courses, go to seminars or use USENET to get some conscious competence at what they are doing because it's really confusing when a large portion of the female population is attracted FAST and it can all be overwhelming.

One of the many curses that plague naturals is that the most unstable women will almost always outmaneuver the higher quality ones (higher quality ones will attempt to "hold their horses" and observe a natural for a while, afraid that they'll screw up, the whackos don't wait, they don't have self-control) and so naturals get a high proportion of really unstable relationships until they stop to figure out wtf is going on....many want to learn about women so they can more accurately figure how to be more perceptive and weed out the more unstable ones.

There are many other problems associated with having tons of women wanting to kiss your ass all your life. The one that is the biggest (i feel) is that there isn't any pressure to mature and work on high character...this is a mirror of what happens to the HB10s....they are most often the most immature women because they never had to work on their social and interpersonal skills...they always get their way.


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